How McKinsey is OUTLEARNING COMPETITION by Pivoting from Training to Developmental Ecosystems with Heather Stefanski - ENG

What does it actually mean to make learning a competitive
advantage? 80% of learning happens in the flow of work — yet most
L&D teams spend 80% of their time on formal programs that
cover just 10% of firm-wide learning. That's the inversion that
changes everything.


That's what I'm digging into in this episode of GOOD MORNING
L&D.





My guest: 


Heather Stefanski, Chief Learning Officer &
Head of People, Data & Analytics at McKinsey & Company


She leads a global team of 400 learning professionals and has
built living proof of what it looks like when L&D moves from
the sidelines to the center of business strategy.





We talk about: 


– Why the real shift isn't from classroom to digital — it's from
training delivery to architecting a development ecosystem 


– What agentic learning actually means: how McKinsey uses AI to
deliver learning support at the exact moment it's needed,
contextualized and situational 


– Why apprenticeship only works as culture — measured, embedded
in rituals, and valued in the review system 


– Why AI literacy and leadership development must be taught as
one integrated capability, not two parallel programs 


– The puddles approach: how to start small, prove value, and
connect wins over time — without waiting for the big
transformation





Host: Moritz Ettl – Founder Forever Day One
https://www.linkedin.com/in/moritzettl/


Guest: Heather Stefanski
https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherstefanski/





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Distribution: Forever Day One Editorial & Production: Tanja
Kamp