DMEXCO Podcast by Verena Gründel
Where Digital Marketing Minds Meet: The DMEXCO Podcast is your backstage pass to the people shaping the future of digital marketing, media, and commerce. Every two weeks, Verena Gründel, DMEXCO host, Marketing Expert and former Chief Editor, talks to t...
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18.11.2025
45 Minuten
Wie viel der Werbebudgets sind heute noch rausgeschmissenes
Geld? Wenn man Steffen Braun,
Executive Vice President Consulting
bei Civey, fragt, ist der Anteil inzwischen im
einstelligen Prozentbereich. Seine Mission ist es,
Unternehmen dabei zu helfen, ihre Kampagnen nicht nur zu
senden, sondern auch zu verstehen und auf Basis von
Echtzeitanalysen kontinuierlich zu optimieren. So bringt er
datenbasierte Klarheit in eine oft gefühlsgetriebene
Marketingwelt.
„Das Marketing hat sich in den letzten ein, zwei oder drei
Jahren eindeutig in Richtung Absatz-Performance-Verkauf
gedreht. Deshalb muss die Branding-Kampagne stärker als früher
nachweisen, dass sie einen Wertbeitrag zum
Unternehmenserfolg leistet”, sagt Steffen
Braun.
Mit diesem Satz bringt er die aktuelle
Herausforderung im Marketing auf den Punkt. Es reicht
nicht mehr, dass Branding nur für Image sorgt – es
muss heute auch im unteren Teil
des Funnels performen. Das macht Wirkungsmessung und
datengetriebenes Marketing zur Pflicht.
Warum Marktfoschungsunternehmen immer häufiger von
Beginn an in die Kampagnenkonzeption eingebunden werden und
welche KPIs heute für die Werbewirkungsmessung relevant sind,
erzählt er im Podcast mit Verena Gründel.
Außerdem geht es im Podcast um folgende Themen:
Wie sich die
Werbeforschungs-Metriken verändert haben
Wie KI die Marktforschung beeinflusst
Welche Rolle synthetische Nutzer in der Marktforschung
spielen könnten
Wieso es mutiger Zielgruppen-Definitionen bedarf
Hör rein und finde heraus, warum Werbewirkung heute messbarer
ist als je zuvor – und was das für dein Marketing
bedeutet.
Noch mehr spannende Insights aus Marketing, Tech und
Digitalisierung bekommst du in unserem Newsletter DMEXCO
Digital Digest abonniert. Klick hier und bekomm
die wichtigsten Trends und spannendsten Entwicklungen
direkt in dein
Postfach: https://go.dmexco.com/digital-digest-current-edition
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04.11.2025
46 Minuten
In this episode, Verena Gründel speaks with Nickolas Rekeda, CMO
of MGID, an international ad tech company with deep roots in
Ukraine. They discuss how digital advertising is helping to
support free journalism and democracy, even amidst war. Nickolas
shares how Ukraine's ad market adapted in crisis, why CTV is
booming, and how MGID supports the local industry through
innovation, resilience, and collaboration.
What happens to advertising when a war breaks out?
Nickolas Rekeda, CMO of MGID, gives us an extraordinary look
behind the scenes of the Ukrainian ad tech market.
Ad spend dropped by 80% in 2022
Local delivery services became vital for survival
CTV usage surged as a new form of escapism
Clean rooms and data innovation are now being exported
globally
In this episode, Nickolas explains how his team kept going — and
why ad tech can help protect democracy.
If you enjoyed the episode, you should definitely also watch
Nickola’s keynote at DMEXCO CMO 2025. It’s full of sharp
insights, personal stories, and actionable takeaways for
marketing leaders:
https://community.dmexco.com/event/dmexco-2025/planning/UGxhbm5pbmdfMjc5NzQ0Nw==
All DMEXCO 2025 sessions are available on demand for free. Simply
register at and dive into the full treasure trove of digital
marketing content.
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21.10.2025
43 Minuten
Johannes Nagl sieht Social Media im Umbruch: Der CEO des
Social-Media-Management-Tools Swat-io hat so tiefe Einblicke in
die Zahlen wie kaum jemand. Instagram, TikTok und LinkedIn werden
weiter wachsen, sagt er – während Twitter aka X im
deutschsprachigen Raum praktisch irrelevant geworden ist und
Threads Potenzial hat, X abzulösen.
Die Zukunft liegt in der Fragmentierung: Unternehmen müssen genau
wissen, wo ihre Zielgruppe aktiv ist. „In 2026 braucht jede Firma
ihren eigenen Plattform-Mix“, erklärt Nagl. Von Strava über
Reddit bis Pinterest – Nischenplattformen können enorme Wirkung
entfalten, wenn man die richtige Community anspricht.
Auch KI verändert das Social-Media-Marketing radikal, ist er
überzeugt. Immer mehr Inhalte werden maschinell generiert – mit
unterschiedlicher Qualität. Johannes beobachtet eine
„Klassengesellschaft” zwischen lieblos erzeugten Texten und
hochwertig trainierten Prompts.
Trotzdem gilt: Qualität schlägt Quantität. Und er glaubt, dass
komplett menschlich ersteller Content eine Nische finden
wird.
Virtuelle Influencer hält er für unausweichlich, „aber
wahrscheinlich erst 2026“, sagt er. In den USA und Asien sei das
Thema längst größer, während der deutschsprachige Markt noch
zögert - Tourismus-Influencerin Emma sei dank.
Außerdem beantwortet er folgende Fragen:
Wird LinkedIn das neue Instagram?
Warum entwickelt sich Social Media so schnell wie noch
nie?
Welche Chance hat das Social-Media-Netzwerk Sora von Open
AI?
Warum sollte Social Media jetzt Algorithmic Media heißen?
Und warum ist es nicht peinlich, auch 2025 noch keine
Social-Media-Strategie zu haben?
Hör rein und erfahre, wie du dein Social-Media-Marketing fit für
die Zukunft machst - und was Johannes’ “Super-low hanging Fruit”
ist.
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07.10.2025
43 Minuten
In just five years, Mutti has doubled its international revenue.
Rafael Narvaez, CMO of the iconic Italian tomato brand, shares
with Verena Gründel how a family-owned company from Parma became
a global player - without losing its soul.
After decades at PepsiCo and Mars, Rafael joined Mutti to lead
the company’s international expansion from the marketing side.
“The starting point was actually understanding where we stand
with the brand around the world and understanding that there are
markets where we are a challenger. Where we are not a market
leader. And in order to cut through and be noticed in a
challenger market, you need to be bold. You just have to. So, it
was really a cultural shift within Mutti.”
One of the bold moves Rafael initiated: The Great Tomato
Challenge in the U.S. Instead of simply sampling products, Mutti
challenged consumers to taste their tomatoes blind, compared to
fresh ones from the grocery store. The results? Tune in!
But boldness also means cultural sensitivity. In Japan, where
tomatoes aren’t a staple, Mutti started small, working with one
retailer, testing SKUs, and adapting the approach to local
consumption habits. “Being global in brand foundations and local
in execution is the key,” Rafael explains.
Mutti’s four brand pillars - quality, communication, innovation,
and consistency - are applied across all markets. From iconic
packaging to premium positioning, everything is designed to
reinforce the brand’s identity while adapting to local needs.
5 Facts from the Episode
Mutti produced 525,000 tons of tomatoes in 2023 - all harvested
in Italy.
Mutti is now present in over 100 countries; 60% of its business
comes from international markets.
Mutti doubled its international growth in just 5 years, from 30
to 60%.
New sustainable glass jars reduce CO₂ emissions by 7% - equal to
13,000 car trips between Rome and Milan.
Rafael’s top three KPIs: product velocity, brand top-of-mind, and
digital engagement.
If you enjoyed the episode, you should definitely also watch
Rafael Narvaez’s keynote at the DMEXCO CMO Summit 2025. It’s full
of sharp insights, personal stories, and actionable takeaways for
international brand leaders:
https://community.dmexco.com/event/dmexco-2025/planning/UGxhbm5pbmdfMjc0MjEwOQ==
All DMEXCO 2025 sessions are available on demand for free. Simply
register at dmexco.com and dive into the full treasure trove of
digital marketing content.
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16.09.2025
32 Minuten
“If I have to ask for permission, then it’s not Mini."
In this episode, Verena Gründel speaks with Jennifer
Treiber-Ruckenbrod, Head of Brand & Marketing at Mini, about
what it means to lead a brand with courage in a highly regulated
and risk-averse automotive environment.
Having worked across BMW, BMW Motorrad, Rolls-Royce, and now
Mini, Jennifer shares how she’s bringing back Mini’s challenger
spirit with creative risk-taking, campaigns that push boundaries,
and an authentic commitment to diversity.
One of the most vivid stories in the episode is the
guerrilla-style campaign involving British Airways. A bold
creative on a Mini Convertible, referencing “Britishness,” was
launched without any prior approval from the airline. The result?
They had to take the billboards down - but not before the
campaign sparked buzz, pride, and also applause internally.
She reveals why Mini’s boldest moves come from staying true to
its DNA. The two talk about building a real culture of failure,
how AI plays a role in Mini’s transformation, and why great ideas
don’t come from permission but from passion.
Discover:
What happened when Mini spoofed British Airways without
asking
If “Don’t buy this car” might be Mini’s future slogan
How her team used AI for campaigns and learned to love it
Why trust, heritage and a clear brand core are the real
enablers of boldness
How Jennifer leads creative teams within a large corporation
without losing agility
Get inspired by Mini’s unapologetically bold marketing - and by
Jennifer’s fearless leadership.
And if you want to hear more from Jennifer: don’t miss her
keynote “CTRL+ALT+MINI” at the CMO Summit on September 18 at
10:35 AM at DMEXCO. Expect bold insights, fresh perspectives and
nothing ordinary:
https://community.dmexco.com/event/dmexco-2025/planning/UGxhbm5pbmdfMjc0ODIyNQ==
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Über diesen Podcast
Where Digital Marketing Minds Meet: The DMEXCO Podcast is your
backstage pass to the people shaping the future of digital
marketing, media, and commerce. Every two weeks, Verena Gründel,
DMEXCO host, Marketing Expert and former Chief Editor, talks to the
brightest minds in the industry – from bold agency founders and
disruptive CMOs to global C-level executives and change-makers. We
go beyond the buzzwords. Together, we decode the strategies,
trends, and transformations behind real business impact – and dive
into how companies are using data, creativity, and technology to
win attention, drive conversion, and scale sustainably. We get to
know the people behind the change. Our guests share candid
insights, untold stories, and actionable ideas from inside the
engine rooms of digital marketing – and from their personal journey
and passion. Last but not least we ask all our guests one pivotal
question: What’s your personal conversion hack? The DMEXCO Podcast
is part of the DMEXCO ecosystem – Europe's leading digital
marketing and tech event for C-level and decision makers, held
every September in Cologne. As the digital economy’s biggest
conversation hub, DMEXCO brings together marketeers, creatives, and
technologists from around the world. New episodes every two weeks.
Be curious. Think forward.
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