74. The upsides and downsides of perfectionism (part 1)

There is nothing wrong with striving to do things right and
perfectly. It depends on how often you do it, when you do it, and
how it works in your life in the long run.


What is unhealthy is demanding perfectionism, which involves
demanding that you are perfect and do things perfectly,
otherwise, you may think of yourself as unworthy, not good
enough, or a screw-up. Those particular patterns of
perfectionistic actions can generate much anxiety, depression,
loneliness, and insurmountable levels of stress, even when it
feels good to do things right and perfectly in the moment.


Andrew Nalband is the Chief Executive Officer at Thunk Notes, a
tool for thinking and journaling. 


In this conversation, Andrew genuinely and kindly shares his
struggles with perfectionism, and how he skillfully manages them
these days.


Key Takeaways





The raw version of how perfectionistic actions show up

The plus, benefits, and cons of perfectionistic actions

How perfectionistic actions show up in all areas of life

If-then thoughts

How to hold our mind lightly 

The beginnings of practicing mindfulness

How to cultivate presence in your day-to-day life






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