In this compelling episode, we sit down with Professor Tim
Jackson, renowned economist, author of Prosperity Without Growth,
and Director of the Centre for the Understanding of Sustainable
Prosperity at the University of Surrey. Together, we explore the
profound dilemma at the heart of modern capitalism: our
dependence on endless economic growth in a world with finite
resources.
Professor Jackson unpacks why growth has become the secular
religion of our time, driving consumerism, inequality, and
ecological destruction. He questions the sustainability and
morality of a system that equates prosperity with ever-increasing
consumption and productivity, and instead calls for a new
economic model—one grounded in fairness, ecological limits, and
meaningful human flourishing.
From the myth that growth is necessary for full employment, to
the iron cage of consumerism, to the need for structural
transformation in finance, work, and governance, Jackson offers a
thoughtful, accessible, and deeply humane critique of the status
quo. He discusses the relevance of degrowth, the role of
technology, and why redefining prosperity is essential to
building a more just and resilient future—especially for the
world's poorest.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone concerned about
inequality, climate change, and the future of our economies.
Whether you're a policymaker, activist, student, or simply
someone looking for hope beyond GDP, Professor Jackson's insights
will inspire you to imagine—and work toward—a better world.
What you’ll learn in this episode:
Why endless economic growth is unsustainable
– and why it's still central to modern capitalism.
The core “dilemma of growth”: Why economies
collapse without growth, yet growth itself is destroying our
planet.
How capitalism concentrates wealth and
perpetuates inequality—and whether it should be reformed or
replaced.
What “prosperity” really means beyond
material wealth: purpose, community, and well-being.
The trap of consumerism and how it functions
like a modern secular religion.
Why degrowth isn't just about doing less—but
about creating a system that values people over profit.
How we can ensure full employment and
economic stability without relying on GDP growth.
Realistic political and financial strategies
to transition toward a sustainable economy.
Why technology alone isn’t the answer—and
what deeper structural changes are needed.
Where global fairness fits in: Why the
poorest regions need growth, and the richest need restraint.
Photo Credit: Markus A. Langer
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