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24.03.2025
2 Stunden 23 Minuten
Was muss Schule heute leisten – und wo stößt sie an ihre Grenzen?
Welche Rolle spielen Eltern, wenn es um Lernmotivation geht? Und
wie erleben Lehrer*innen den Spagat zwischen pädagogischem Anspruch
und systemischen Schranken? In dieser Folge von School must go on
spricht Stephan Bayer mit dem Jugend- und Bildungsforscher Prof.
Dr. Klaus Hurrelmann über die großen bildungspolitischen Fragen
unserer Zeit: darüber, was Schule heutzutage leisten muss, über die
sich verändernden Ansprüche an Schüler*innen, Lehrkräfte und Eltern
und über die Frage, wie sich Bildungseinrichtungen öffnen und
weiterentwickeln können – auch im Zusammenspiel mit
außerschulischen Partnern wie EdTechs. Ausgangspunkt für das
Gespräch ist eine aktuelle Wirksamkeitsstudie zur Nutzung von
sofatutor, die vom Forschungsinstitut für Bildungs- und
Sozialökonomie (FIBS) gemeinsam mit Trimion applied social research
im Auftrag von sofatutor durchgeführt wurde. Befragt wurden über
6.600 Personen – darunter Lehrkräfte, Schüler*innen und Eltern. Die
Ergebnisse zeigen: Digitale Lernplattformen können einen Beitrag
leisten – zur Stärkung der Lernmotivation von Schüler*innen oder
der Unterstützung von Lehrkräften beim Unterrichten. Eine Studie
dieser Art ist auf dem deutschen EdTech-Markt einzigartig und gibt
spannende Einblicke in den Nutzen von digitalen Lern- und
Lehrangeboten.
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25.04.2023
25 Minuten
Familie Gencalp hat ihr Leben letztes Jahr komplett auf den Kopf
gestellt und sich auf den Weg gemacht, die Welt zu umsegeln. Im
Podcast „School must go on“ berichtet die dreiköpfige Familie über
die Hintergründe ihrer Entscheidung und wie Sohn Aybars das Lernen
außerhalb des Klassenzimmers gelingt. – „Was machen wir hier
eigentlich?“ – Den Traum vom Leben auf dem Boot und dem Umsegeln
der Welt hatten Mama Daniele und Papa Güven schon lange. Nach einem
schweren Schicksalsschlag entschieden sie sich schließlich, ihr
Leben grundlegend zu verändern und ihren Traum Wirklichkeit werden
zu lassen. „Das war auch für uns der Auslöser, wo wir gesagt haben:
‘Was machen wir eigentlich?’“, erklärt Daniele. „Man verschiebt
immer alles auf später und wartet, aber das Leben kann von heute
auf morgen vorbei sein!“. So verkauften die beiden Haus und Firma
und zogen gemeinsam mit Sohn Aybars auf ihr Boot, mit dem im Mai
die Weltreise starten soll. – „Der Schulleiter ist der Meinung,
dass Reisen auch bildet” – Der 15-Jährige Aybars hat seine
bisherige Schulzeit, wie die meisten Jugendlichen seines Alters, in
einer deutschen Schule verbracht. Die Freistellung von der
Schulpflicht sei jedoch einfach und unkompliziert gewesen. „Wir
haben dem Schulleiter von unseren Plänen erzählt und er hat es von
Anfang an befürwortet“, erinnert sich Daniele. „Er ist ebenso der
Meinung, dass Reisen auch bildet.“ So wurde der Antrag bei der
Schulbehörde gestellt und knapp eine Woche später kam die
Bestätigung der Freistellung von der Schulpflicht für drei Jahre. –
Neu gewonnene Freiheiten beim Lernen – „Am Anfang hatte ich ein
bisschen Angst davor, dass ich meine Freunde nicht mehr sehe und
das mit der Schule nicht schaffe“, erklärt Aybars. Beides habe sich
aber nicht bewahrheitet. Gelegentliche gegenseitige Besuche und der
Kontakt über das Internet ermöglichen es dem 15-jährigen, sich mit
seinen Freunden auszutauschen. Das Lernen sei inzwischen einfach.
„Ich habe die entsprechenden Schulbücher der 9. Klasse und lerne
parallel mit den Videos und Aufgaben von sofatutor“, so der
Jugendliche. „Es ist angenehmer, man lernt nach seinen eigenen
Regeln und kriegt nicht das meiste vorgeschrieben, wie zum Beispiel
wann der Unterricht startet oder wann die Schule endet.“ Es ist
diese gewonnene Freiheit für ihren Sohn, über die sich auch Mutter
Daniele freut. „Manchmal ist es so, dass das Wetter toll ist und
der Wind stimmt. Dann geht Aybars morgens Kitesurfen und macht am
Nachmittag Schule oder am nächsten Tag entsprechend ein bisschen
mehr. Das ist diese Freiheit, die er dann eben auch genießen kann,
aber man trotzdem das Gefühl hat, dass er die Schule ernst nimmt.“
Außerdem berichtet die Familie von Dingen, die man über den
Lehrplan hinaus beim Reisen lernt, wie das Fehlen der sozialen
Aspekte einer Schule auf Reisen kompensiert werden kann und welche
Route sie segeln werden.
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11.01.2023
34 Minuten
(The English interview starts at 3:10) According to current
statistics, each German high school has enrolled between 10 and 30
Ukrainian students. Many principals have done this without
additional staff and have often exceeded the maximum class sizes
allowed by law. This raises the question of how well or poorly
Ukrainian students are able to follow the lessons when they speak
little German and are forced by German school law to be present in
the German school. At the beginning of the war and the wave of
refugees, Optima School tried to offer supplementary lessons for
Ukrainian students. With live lessons and on-demand learning
content in Ukrainian. In the morning, Ukrainian children could have
learned at the German school and in the afternoon, they could have
consolidated content in their own language or learned
Ukraine-specific topics such as history, geography and social
studies. Unfortunately, there was no longer much talk about the
Optima School in Germany, which Stephan took as the occasion to
talk to Yuriy Balkin. Yuriy is Chief Strategy Officer of Optima
Education Group which operates Optima School, the first and the
largest Ukrainian K-12 distance learning school. – No state funding
in Germany – As Yuriy explains in this episode of “School must go
on” Optima has been running reliably for years and is easily
scalable. Optima School is in the same situation as many EdTechs in
the education sector: There is no state funding, because
stakeholders such as the ministry of education do not want to
support "for-profit" companies, even in times of acute crisis. This
is also how the documentation of the rejection of cooperation
between KMK and Optima can be read: No interest in cooperating with
companies with the excuse that it is not that easy to procure.
Instead, the SAP Foundation and the Bosch Foundation stepped in and
helped more than 100,000 Ukrainian students gain access to the
Optima platform at short notice. Yuri Balkin also talks about the
background and concept of Optima School and how they are currently
trying to continue to provide education to as many Ukrainian
children as possible, regardless of location, economic
circumstances, and government support.
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09.09.2022
44 Minuten
Doug Robers, who started out as a teacher, has worked in and with
the US education system in a wide variety of roles over the years.
Based on his accumulated experiences, he founded the Institute for
Education Innovation in 2018, which he still manages as CEO. In the
podcast “School must go on,” Doug Roberts talks about the unique
structures in the US education system, and the background and work
of the Institute for Education Innovation. – “We aim to bridge a
gap in the conversations around innovation” – Doug Roberts talks
about two different groups: On the one hand the district leaders
who are working hard to try to find the most creative and
innovative solution to problems, and on the other hand,
entrepreneurs and founders of organizations who are similarly
working to provide creative and innovative solutions to challenges.
“It can be hard for them to find each other, partially because our
process of buying and selling in K12 is somewhat antiquated”, Doug
explains. “So what if we create a robust and sort of level playing
field, democratized ecosystem where any company or nonprofit or
other organization, regardless of its size, experience, influence,
investor backing or not, can have access to districts that are
trying to solve the problem that they're working on.” It’s not
necessarily about doing business, Doug says, it’s about learning
what’s out there and then figuring out how you can improve what you
are currently doing. “Overall it’s a community of people who are
curious and engaged in trying to get better at what they do.” –
Building relationships instead of only doing business – “You can't
come to the Institute for Education Innovation and just think about
profit”, Doug explains. “What you want to think about is growing
your organization and growing your relationships.” The companies
that do best, he says, come in with a focus on listening, on
building relationships and on working the problem. “So, if you’re a
solution in search of a problem, that’s going to be tough. If you
know that there’s a problem and you're looking at the problem and
trying to provide a solution to it, our members will see that,
identify it and then try to work with you to figure out how you can
solve the problem on the ground in their place.” Doug observed that
in the end relationships are much more important than the business.
“But if you go and build the relationships and listen and take the
right approach, the business comes.” – The importance of
superintendents – “We do have a unique thing here in the fact that
our schools are governed by local boards of education who hire a
superintendent who then runs a school system”, Doug says. He thinks
the business acumen of these superintendents is not appreciated
enough. “They see all the different angles to work in a district.
They are running a hundreds-of-millions budget, and managing all
the complex operations with thousands of people reporting to them.
They have to be over these large bureaucracies, organizations and
civil servants and we all kind of know what a school looks like.”,
Doug emphasizes. “And it's the entrepreneurial aspect of
superintendent work that we try to help people understand that it
is a big part of their jobs.” So, the superintendent is the right
place to start the conversation, Doug Roberts says, but also the
hardest person to reach in the school district because of the
massive operations they have to run. “But anything that's kind of
enterprise level, you really need the district Leadership team on
board, and that's where we help.” Doug Roberts also talks about the
procurement and purchasing process, the current state of tech, and
past and future development.
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04.03.2022
1 Stunde 1 Minute
Brandy Yee is the Assistant Professor and Director of Liberal
Studies in Education Program at the California Lutheran University.
She is from Canada where she worked as a teacher and principal. In
addition, she has also worked as a professor in Germany and
Finland, which gave her an insight into the educational systems
there. In the podcast “School must go on” Brandy Yee talks about
the huge shift in the Canadian education system during the last
years. – PISA scores vs. intellectual engagement – A study in
Canada (“What did you do in school today?”) found out a few years
ago that students do not enjoy being students. And this in spite of
the consistently good results in PISA. “We need to ensure that our
students cannot just regurgitate content. But they have the skills
and abilities necessary to engage in lifelong learning to be agile
and to be able to pivot when times change”, Brandy Yee explains.
She describes intellectual engagement as a deep investment in
learning through which the kids come to school because they're so
excited about what they're learning. So, the PISA scores are
important, Brandy says, but you need to also ask yourself “Are the
kids engaged?” Can they not only do well on standardized tests of
achievement? Is there an environment where the kids want to be
continuous learners? “The Canadian study really forced us to
reconsider the things that we were doing.” – A system for every
student – In the past, if you weren’t a kid who did very well in
the core subjects, Brandy explains, there was really no place for
you in the Canadian education system. “It was hard for us to come
to terms with that – that we had created structures within our
system that only served some of our students well.” For a long time
there were students that believed that they could never make it at
a university or post secondary setting – so they didn’t even try
and apply. “We started to create opportunities within our high
schools where they could start to take some of those preliminary
University courses”, the Professor says. There are also
partnerships with some trades, technical schools and art schools
and the students even have the possibility to go to other high
schools for specific courses. In addition to this, Canada started
to bring mentors from the industry into education. “So we're
supporting the students as they transition from high school into
post-secondary, and then we're supporting them with those key
connections as they transition from post-secondary into the
workforce.” – Progress reports instead of classic report cards –
“We also started to look at formative assessment”, Brandy Yee sums
up. For a long time summative assessment was the main form of
assessment used in Canada – and in many other educational systems
around the world. “That was something that we just accepted as the
acceptable practice. But when you actually start to unpack, it runs
quite counterintuitive to teaching and the learning process,” the
former principal explains. “So, if we only test students at the end
of a unit by a test and it shows that either, they get an 82 or 94
and so they've sort of met the learning outcome, or they get a 60
or a 50 or 40, which means that they maybe haven't quite met the
learning outcome. What happens the next day? Will we move on to the
next unit?”, Brandy wonders. “We started to shift and integrated
three important concepts into the progress report: Student growth,
progress, and achievement.” All in all, Brandy Yee says, they have
given students a voice in their education. Brandy Yee also talks
about the role and self-concept of teachers, how to move from ideas
to implementation, and the importance of middle school to
adolescents.
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Über diesen Podcast
Der Podcast „School must go on“ entstand während der
Schulschließungen im Frühjahr 2020. Für Bildungsunternehmer Stephan
Bayer (sofatutor.com) und Podcaster Philipp Glöckler war klar, dass
das Lernen immer weitergeht – auch wenn es zunächst unvorstellbar
schien. Mit spannenden Denkanstößen und gelungenen Praxisbeispielen
macht Stephan Bayer den Schulen Mut, sich nachhaltig und
sinnstiftend weiterzuentwickeln. Er tauscht sich dazu jede Woche
mit Lehrkräften, Bildungsexpert*innen und Familien über Themen wie
Krisenmanagement, digitale Bildung oder neue Lernkonzepte aus.
Seine Gäste zeigen, dass neue Bildung unkompliziert gelingen kann,
wenn man mit Herz und Verstand zur Tat schreitet. Für Ideen &
Anmerkungen: podcast@sofatutor.com Für mehr Infos: LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bayerstephan/ Twitter:
https://twitter.com/stephan_bayer_ Web: https://www.sofatutor.com/
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