The governor of Illinois discusses decarbonization in the era of Trump

In this episode, I speak with Illinois Governor JB Pritzker, one
of the depressingly few Democratic leaders showing real fight in
the face of Trumpism. We get into the weeds on how Illinois is
defending its climate laws, advancing clean energy and
manufacturing, and tackling thorny challenges like the housing
crisis, the transition away from natural gas, and the looming
“fiscal cliff” facing transit agencies. Oh, and the governor
explains what quantum computing is.


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