A fireside chat with Jigar Shah

In this episode, recorded live back in May, I'm joined by the one
and only Jigar Shah to discuss Washington state climate policy
and post-IRA policy in general. Jigar argues that to build
political durability, the climate movement must shift its focus
from shiny tech to solving everyday cost-of-living problems and
that smart finance is the real key to scaling the energy
transition for everyone.


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