Reversing Diabetes Naturally: The Science Big Medicine Ignored

There has been a fundamental shift in understanding metabolic
health and chronic disease, particularly Type 2 diabetes,
challenging long-standing dietary dogma by emphasizing that insulin
resistance is largely driven by overconsumption of refined
carbohydrates, not dietary fat or red meat. While highlighting the
success of carbohydrate restriction and ketogenic approaches,
nutrition is being seen as a powerful tool for reversing
diabetes—often more effective and sustainable than conventional
medication. The implications are far-reaching, not only for
individual health outcomes, but also for reshaping public health
strategies in addressing today’s chronic disease epidemic. In this
episode, I speak with Gary Taubes, Sami Inkinen, and Dr. Greeshma
Shetty about an approach to treating Type 2 Diabetes that works. I
also discuss how red meat is not to blame, but we should be looking
at high sugar and starch diets. Gary Taubes is an award-winning
science and health journalist, and co-founder and director of the
Nutrition Science Initiative (NuSI). He is the author of The Case
Against Sugar, Why We Get Fat, Good Calories, Bad Calories, and,
most recently, The Case for Keto. Gary is a former staff writer for
Discover and correspondent for Science. He has written three cover
articles on nutrition and health for The New York Times Magazine,
and his writing has also appeared in The Atlantic, Esquire, and
numerous "best of" anthologies, including The Best of the Best
American Science Writing (2010). He has received three Science in
Society Journalism Awards from the National Association of Science
Writers, and is also the recipient of a Robert Wood Johnson
Foundation Investigator Award in Health Policy Research. He lives
in Oakland, CA. Sami Inkinen is the CEO and Co-Founder of Virta
Health, a pioneer in reversing diseases like obesity and type 2
diabetes through a nutrition-first approach. Sami's personal
connection to diabetes and passion to advance global health was the
motivation behind Virta and its innovative care model. Previously,
Inkinen was the co-founder of the leading online real estate
marketplace Trulia, serving as its COO and president and board
member until its IPO and eventual sale to Zillow Group. Dr.
Greeshma Shetty, board certified in Internal Medicine and
Endocrinology, currently serves as a Lead Clinician in the Virta
Medical Group and the Director of Quality and Safety at Virta
Health. Prior to joining Virta, she was clinical physician educator
at Harvard Medical School, where she directed the combined Joslin -
Beth Israel Deaconess Endocrine Fellowship program and Co-Directed
the Asian American Diabetes Initiative. She is dedicated to
clinical excellence, leveraging health technology, transforming
healthcare delivery, driving health equity and building high
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