Barbacoa with Norma Listman & Saqib Keval

In this episode, Preeti talks with Chefs Norma Listman and Saqib
Keval, the duo behind Masala y Maíz and Marigold in Mexico City.
The chefs share their unique culinary backgrounds and the melding
of their heritages — Mexican, South Asian, and East African —
into their cuisine. They discuss the process behind their lamb
barbacoa recipe, a melding of Norma's Mexican family tradition
with Saqib's South Asian flavors and spices. The discussion also
explores the significance of maintaining cultural integrity while
innovating with traditional recipes, avoiding the pitfalls of
fusion for the sake of novelty. They also discuss the broader
responsibilities of chefs in society, touching on labor rights in
the restaurant industry, creating a supportive work culture, and
the importance of political engagement through food. 


 


More about them: 


Norma's Website


Saqib's Website


Their restaurants Masala y Maiz | Marigold


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