No Such Thing: Education in the Digital Age
A podcast about the promise and reality of learning with technology
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10.06.2025
53 Minuten
Exploring how simulations are shaping education research and
practice, with insights from the book Promoting Equity through
Approximations of Practice in Mathematics Education. It examines
how approximations of practice can help educators sharpen their
skills while keeping equity at the forefront. It’s not just about
improving instruction; it’s about ensuring that all students,
regardless of background, have access to high-quality learning
experiences.
Links:
Lee, C., Bondurant, L., Sapkota, B., Howell, H. (2025). Promoting
equity in approximations of practice for mathematics teachers.
IGI Global. https://doi.org/10.4018/979-8-3693-1164-6
Benoit, G., Barno, E., & Reich, J. (2025). Simulating
Equitable Discussions Using Practice-Based Teacher Education in
Math Professional Learning. In C. Wilkerson Lee, L. Bondurant, B.
Sapkota, & H. Howell (Eds.), Promoting Equity in
Approximations of Practice for Mathematics Teachers (pp.
165-200). IGI Global Scientific Publishing.
https://doi.org/10.4018/979-8-3693-1164-6.ch008
Shaughnessy, M., Boerst, T. A., Garcia, N., & Claiborne, B.
(2025). Orienting to Student Sense-Making: Using Simulations to
Support the Development of Equitable Mathematics Teaching. In C.
Wilkerson Lee, L. Bondurant, B. Sapkota, & H. Howell (Eds.),
Promoting Equity in Approximations of Practice for Mathematics
Teachers (pp. 253-276). IGI Global Scientific Publishing.
https://doi.org/10.4018/979-8-3693-1164-6.ch011
Howell, H., Shaughnessy, M., Stengel, B., Lee, C., Bondurant, L.,
Sapkota, B., Benoit, G., & Lai, Y. (2025). Editorial
insights: Reflections on the volume and charge to the field. In
C. Lee, L. Bondurant, B. Sapkota, & H. Howell (Eds.),
Promoting equity in approximations of practice for mathematics
teachers (pp. 395-414). IGI Global.
https://doi.org/10.4018/979-8-3693-1164-6.ch017
Ataide Pinheiro, W., Kaur Bharaj, P., Cross Francis, D.,
Kirkpatrick Darwin, T., Esquibel, J., & Halder, S. (2025). An
Investigation of Gender Biases in Teacher-Student Interaction in
Mathematics Lessons Within a Virtual Teaching Simulator. In C.
Wilkerson Lee, L. Bondurant, B. Sapkota, & H. Howell (Eds.),
Promoting Equity in Approximations of Practice for Mathematics
Teachers (pp. 201-228). IGI Global Scientific Publishing.
https://doi.org/10.4018/979-8-3693-1164-6.ch009
MIT’s Teacher Moments digital simulation platform:
https://teachermoments.mit.edu/
Becoming a More Equitable Educator
https://openlearninglibrary.mit.edu/courses/course-v1:MITx+0.503x+T2020/about
Reich, J. (2022). Teaching drills: Advancing practice-based
teacher education through short, low-stakes, high-frequency
practice. Journal of Technology and Teacher Education, 30(2),
217-228. https://doi.org/10.70725/023707spaywm
Bima’s lit review:
https://doi.org/10.1080/14794802.2023.2207088
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21.05.2025
58 Minuten
For decades, the conversation around youth and technology has
been dominated by powerful voices—media, researchers, and
word-of-mouth warnings—painting a picture of digital tools as the
looming threat to young people’s well-being. But what if that
narrative isn’t the whole story? What if, instead, we favored the
spectrum of possibilities in the digital present and future,
instead of a good or evil binary. It would take a a vibrant
counter-movement, led by passionate advocates and young people
themselves, determined to reclaim the digital world for good. And
good news, there is one.
This episode was recorded live at Sesame Workshop, bringing
together a true who's who of leaders and do-ers in the world of
“Digital Wellness for Young People.” At the heart of our
conversation is Young Futures—a startup initiative funding
projects through the crucial lens of digital wellness. Young
Futures is empowering the next generation to create, innovate,
and advocate for a healthier digital landscape, supporting ideas
that prioritize well-being over profit.
Joining us are visionaries from the Scratch Foundation, the
organization behind the world’s largest free creative coding
platform for kids, empowering millions to express themselves and
solve problems through technology. We’re also honored to welcome
leaders from the Joan Ganz Cooney Center, a research and
innovation lab that advances learning in a digital age, inspired
by the pioneering spirit of Sesame Street.
Links:
https://www.youngfutures.org/
https://joanganzcooneycenter.org/initiative/ritec/
https://www.scratchfoundation.org/
https://joanganzcooneycenter.org/initiative/well-being-by-design-fellowship/
https://www.gamesforchange.org/
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08.05.2025
1 Stunde 1 Minute
Roderic Crooks is an associate professor in the Department of
Informatics at the University of California, Irvine. His research
examines how the use of digital technology by public institutions
contributes to the minoritization of working-class communities of
color. His current project explores how community organizers in
working-class communities of color use data for activist
projects, even as they dispute the proliferation of
data-intensive technologies in education, law enforcement,
financial services, and other vital sites of public life. He has
published extensively in HCI, STS, and social science venues on
topics including political theories of online participation,
equity of access to information and media technologies, and
document theory. He is the author Access Is Capture: How Edtech
Reproduces Racial Inequality, published in 2024 by the University
of California Press
(https://www.ucpress.edu/books/access-is-capture/paper).
Access is Capture
Racially and economically segregated schools across the United
States have hosted many interventions from commercial digital
education technology (edtech) companies who promise their
products will rectify the failures of public education. Edtech's
benefits are not only trumpeted by industry promoters and
evangelists but also vigorously pursued by experts, educators,
students, and teachers. Why, then, has edtech yet to make good on
its promises? In Access Is Capture, Roderic N. Crooks
investigates how edtech functions in Los Angeles public schools
that exclusively serve Latinx and Black communities. These
so-called urban schools are sites of intense, ongoing
technological transformation, where the tantalizing possibilities
of access to computing meet the realities of structural
inequality. Crooks shows how data-intensive edtech delivers value
to privileged individuals and commercial organizations but never
to the communities that hope to share in the benefits. He
persuasively argues that data-drivenness ultimately enjoins the
public to participate in a racial project marked by the
extraction of capital from minoritized communities to enrich the
tech sector.
Links:
Amazon listing for Access Is CaptureUniversity of California
Press page for Access Is CaptureAuthor's personal websiteTalks and
events from Civics of Technology featuring Roderic N. CrooksArticle
co-authored by Crooks discussing intersectional themes in feminist
formations
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03.04.2025
1 Stunde 1 Minute
Sylvia Martinez was an aerospace engineer before
becoming an educational software producer and vice president of a
video game company. She spent a decade as the President of
Generation YES, the groundbreaking non-profit that provides
educators with the tools necessary to place students in
leadership roles in their schools and communities. In addition to
leading workshops, Sylvia delights and challenges audiences as a
keynote speaker at major conferences around the world. She brings
her real-world experience in highly innovative work environments
to learning organizations that wish to change STEM education to
be more inclusive, effective, and engaging.
Sylvia is co-author of Invent To Learn: Making, Tinkering, and
Engineering in the Classroom, often called the “bible” of the
classroom maker movement. She runs the book publishing arm of CMK
Futures, Constructing Modern Knowledge Press, to continue to
publish books about creative education by educators.
Ken Kahn has been interested in Al and education
for 50 years. His 1977 paper "Three interactions between Al and
education" In E. Elcock and D. Michie, editors, Machine
Intelligence 8: Machine Representations of Knowledge may be among
the first publications on the topic. He received his doctorate
from the MIT Al Lab in 1979. He designed and implemented
ToonTalk, a programming language for children that looks and
feels like a video game. He has developed a large collection of
Al programming resources for school students
(https://ecraft2learn.github.io/ai/). He recently retired as a
senior researcher from the University of Oxford.
Links
https://constructingmodernknowledge.com/about-the-cmk-hosts/https://sylviamartinez.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/garystager_ken-kahn-speaks-with-sylvia-martinez-about-activity-7303865110035341313-BcUlhttps://uk.linkedin.com/in/ken-kahn-997a225
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25.02.2025
55 Minuten
Dave Edwards, PhD (ABD), MAT, is a queer person
and career educator who has served in almost every role in
preK-12th grade school communities.
After getting started as a special education paraprofessional in
an Autism classroom in Saint Paul Public Schools, he served as a
special education teacher, middle/high school classroom teacher,
special education coordinator, Dean of Students, and Assistant
Head of School. From 2015-2018, Dave made the jump to higher
education as lead instructor for the nontraditional teacher
licensure program in Emotional Behavior Disorders at the
University of MN Twin Cities.
He was an undergraduate and graduate professor in the teacher
preparation program at Hamline University from 2018 to 2020
before devoting his efforts full-time to Gender Inclusive
Schools.
Dave is the proud parent to a transgender daughter, and his
family's experience with the discrimination she experienced in
kindergarten directly informs his vocation of helping school
communities create safe learning environments.
Dave serves on the board of the Minnesota Transgender Health
Coalition and his family is heavily involved with Transforming
Families MN.
Gender Inclusive Schools provides parent and
educator training to proactively create safe learning
environments for LGBTQ+ young people. We specialize in
facilitating full-staff professional development sessions on a
variety of equity topics, providing small group consultations,
collaborating on support for individual students, and
school-board policy development.
During the 2023/2024 school year, Gender Inclusive Schools
supported educators in over 75 different school communities
across the United States, Canada, the UK, and Australia.
https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/gender-inclusive-school/
https://www.graduateprogram.org/2024/10/making-your-classroom-more-gender-inclusive/
https://www.genderinclusiveschools.org
https://www.mapresearch.org/news/policy-spotlight-conversion-therapy-bans-release
https://www.notion4teachers.com/blog/fostering-gender-inclusivity-educator-strategies
https://www.highereddive.com/news/trump-executive-order-diversity-equity-inclusion-colleges/738052/
https://www.genderinclusiveschools.org/educator-pd
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The show is about learning with technology, the realities and
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The music in this podcast was produced by Leroy Tindy, a guest in
episode zero. You can find him on SoundCloud at AirTindi Beats.
The podcast is produced by Marc Lesser. Marc is a specialist
in the fields of digital learning and youth development with
broad experience designing programming and learning environments
in local and national contexts. Marc recently served as Youth
Studies Practitioner Fellow at City University of New York, and
leads a team of researchers and technologists for NAF (National
Academy Foundation).
Marc is the co-founder of Emoti-Con NYC, New York's biggest youth
digital media and technology festival, and in 2012 was named a
National School Boards Association “20-to-Watch” among national
leaders in education and technology. Connect with Marc on BlueSky
@malesser, or LinkedIn.
What's with the ice cream truck in the logo? In the 80's,
Richard E. Clark at University of Southern California set off a
pretty epic debate based on his statement that "media are mere
vehicles that deliver instruction but do not influence student
achievement any more than the truck that delivers our groceries
causes changes in nutrition." * So, the ice cream truck, it's a
nod to Richard Clark, who frequently rings in my ear when I'm
tempted to take things at face value. "Is it the method, or the
medium?" I wonder.
The title, No Such Thing, has a few meanings. Mostly,
it emphasizes the importance of hard questions as we develop and
document the narrative of "education" in the US. For Richard E.
Clark, the question is whether there's such a thing as
learning from new technologies. For others, it might be
whether there's a panacea for the challenges we face in this
field. Whatever your question, I hope that it reminds you to keep
asking--yourself, your learners, others--what's working and how
so.
* Clark, R. E. (1983) Reconsidering Research on Learning From
Media. Review of Educational Research 53(4) 445-459.
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