Can Bitcoin Be More Than Just Digital Gold? (with Botanix)

In this episode, we talk to Alisia Painter, co-founder and COO of
Botanix, about her journey from Brazil to Bitcoin, and how her
experience shaped the mission behind Botanix — a project aiming
to bring programmability and DeFi to Bitcoin without compromising
on decentralization or user control.


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We explore why Bitcoin matters in emerging markets, how Botanix
is building a secure, decentralized Layer 2 for Bitcoin, and why
building without traditional token incentives might be the key to
long-term ecosystem sustainability. Alisia also shares insights
into user adoption in Brazil, the challenges of onboarding new
users, and how Botanix is thinking about digital identity,
self-custody, and real-world asset tokenization.


Whether you’re a Bitcoiner, builder, or curious about the future
of programmable money — this one’s for you.


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Botanix Website: https://botanixlabs.com/


Botanix on X: https://x.com/BotanixLabs


Botanix on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/botanixlabs


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Timestamps:


00:00 - Intro


02:30 - From Brazil To Bitcoin


05:00 - Education Financed By BTC Gains


05:50 - Bitcoin's Role in Emerging Markets


08:54 - Botanix: Bridging Bitcoin and DeFi


16:30 - First Decentralized Bitcoin Layer 2


21:30 - Bootstrapping A Bitcoin DeFi Ecosystem


29:30 - Why Not Bridge to Ethereum Instead?


32:04 - Bridging Risks and User Experience


36:00 - Bitcoin Is Slow (Finality): Implications


40:00 - Bitcoin’s Unique Standing as an Asset


42:30 - What’s Next?


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