Garry Kasparov: Chess, Deep Blue, AI, and Putin

Garry Kasparov is considered by many to be the greatest
chess player of all time. From 1986 until his retirement in 2005,
he dominated the chess world, ranking world number 1 for most of
those 19 years. While he has many historic matches against human
chess players, in the long arc of history he may be remembered
for his match again a machine, IBM’s Deep Blue. His initial
victories and eventual loss to Deep Blue captivated the
imagination of the world of what role Artificial Intelligence
systems may play in our civilization’s future. That excitement
inspired an entire generation of AI researchers, including
myself, to get into the field. Garry is also a pro-democracy
political thinker and leader, a fearless human-rights activist,
and author of several books including How Life Imitates Chess
which is a book on strategy and decision-making, Winter Is Coming
which is a book articulating his opposition to the Putin regime,
and Deep Thinking which is a book the role of both artificial
intelligence and human intelligence in defining our future. This
conversation is part of the Artificial Intelligence
podcast. If you would like to get more information
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00:00 – Introduction
01:33 – Love of winning and hatred of losing
04:54 – Psychological elements
09:03 – Favorite games
16:48 – Magnus Carlsen
23:06 – IBM Deep Blue
37:39 – Morality
38:59 – Autonomous vehicles
42:03 – Fall of the Soviet Union
45:50 – Putin
52:25 – Life