#77 – Alex Garland: Ex Machina, Devs, Annihilation, and the Poetry of Science

Alex Garland is a writer and director of many imaginative and
philosophical films from the dreamlike exploration of human
self-destruction in the movie Annihilation to the deep questions of
consciousness and intelligence raised in the movie Ex Machina,
which to me is one of the greatest movies on artificial
intelligence ever made. I'm releasing this podcast to coincide with
the release of his new series called Devs that will premiere this
Thursday, March 5, on Hulu. EPISODE LINKS: Devs:
https://hulu.tv/2x35HaH Annihilation: https://hulu.tv/3ai9Eqk Ex
Machina: https://www.netflix.com/title/80023689 Alex IMDb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0307497/ Alex Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Garland This conversation is
part of the Artificial Intelligence podcast. If you would like
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Here's the outline of the episode. On some podcast players you
should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
OUTLINE: 00:00 - Introduction 03:42 - Are we living in a dream?
07:15 - Aliens 12:34 - Science fiction: imagination becoming
reality 17:29 - Artificial intelligence 22:40 - The new "Devs"
series and the veneer of virtue in Silicon Valley 31:50 - Ex
Machina and 2001: A Space Odyssey 44:58 - Lone genius 49:34 -
Drawing inpiration from Elon Musk 51:24 - Space travel 54:03 - Free
will 57:35 - Devs and the poetry of science 1:06:38 - What will you
be remembered for?