TPM015 - Tastaturen
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TPM015 - Tastaturen
Früher waren sie ein Alleinstellungsmerkmal und auch heute
assoziiert man sie immer noch mit ThinkPads:
Tastaturen. Zusammen mit
Philipp vom CCH-Podcast steigen wir in einen
tiefen Kaninchenbau und werfen einen Blick auf die
Tastatur-Geschichte und beleuchten die Veränderungen der
ThinkPad-Tastaturen im Laufe der Jahre.
Mit dem SL400 gab es einen weiteren Neuzugang im
Museum. Die Intel-Variante des T14s G6
überrascht im Test mit einer langen Akkulaufzeit.
Shownotes Intro
Click! Clack! Hack!: https://www.clickclackhack.de/
Phil auf Mastodon: https://corteximplant.com/@0x17
TPM005 - Community: Philipp / 0x17:
https://thinkpad-museum.de/episode/tpm005-community-philipp-0x17/
Feedback und Ankündigungen
ThinkPad SL400: https://thinkpad-museum.de/collection/sl400/
Urlaub im Userspace-Podcast: https://user.space
News
Notebookcheck-Review zum T14s G6 (Intel):
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Intel-Imperium-schlaegt-zurueck-mit-21-Stunden-Akkulaufzeit-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T14s-Gen-6-Laptop-im-Test.1023364.0.html
Review der AMD-Variante:
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T14s-Gen-6-Laptop-im-Test-Die-AMD-Version-kehrt-zurueck-mit-dem-Ryzen-AI-7-Pro-360.926520.0.html
Test der Snapdragon-Version:
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T14s-Gen-6-Laptop-Snapdragon-X-Elite-fuehrt-zu-epischer-Akkulaufzeit.857315.0.html
Vorgeschichte zur Tastatur
Wikipedia - Tastaturbelegung:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tastaturbelegung
Wikipedia - Blickensderfer:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blickensderfer
Wikipedia - Neo (Tastaturbelegung):
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_(Tastaturbelegung)
IBM als Tastaturen-Hersteller
Wikipedia - Henry Mill:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Mill
Wikipedia - Karl von Drais:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_von_Drais
Heinz Nixdorf MuseumsForum: https://www.hnf.de
Mechanicon: https://mechanicon.io/
Sharktastica - IBM Beamspring:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=ibmbeamspring
Sharktastica - IBM Model B:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelb#310X
Clunker Keyboard: https://mechwild.com/product/clunker/
Model F Keyboards: https://www.modelfkeyboards.com
Chyrosran22 - IBM 5251 keyboard review (beamsprings):
https://youtu.be/1qw6ebySet0
Sharktastica - IBM Model F:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelf
Chyrosran22 - Customised IBM 4704 Model F107 keyboard review
“Project I” (capacitive buckling springs):
https://youtu.be/Wa3DmRPo9XM
Sharktastica - IBM Model M:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelm
Unicomp: https://www.pckeyboard.com/
Chyrosran22 - The Ultimate IBM Model M review (buckling
springs): https://youtu.be/r5H58uudo1Y
Generelles zu ThinkPad-Tastaturen
GitHub - mnhttn: https://github.com/fooker/mnhttn
CCH-CON: https://cch-con.de/
Reddit r/thinkpad - Anybody willing to test their keyboard
actuation (pressure) against mine (x395):
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/cyyojt/anybody_willing_to_test_their_keyboard_actuation/
Wikipedia - AZERTY-Tastaturbelegung:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY-Tastaturbelegung
ThinkWiki - 701: https://thinkwiki.de/701
Handwiki - IBM ThinkPad Butterfly keyboard:
https://handwiki.org/wiki/Engineering:IBM_ThinkPad_Butterfly_keyboard
Yoiko - TrackWrite:
https://en.ysrl.org/butterfly/trackwrite.html
Precision Keyboard
ThinkWiki - Precision Keyboard:
https://thinkwiki.de/Precision_Keyboard
ThinkWiki - Tastaturbeleuchtung:
https://thinkwiki.de/Tastaturbeleuchtung
cstan.io - Lenovo Thinkpad X230 2324-62G Review (2012):
https://cstan.io/post/2012/12/lenovo-thinkpad-x230-2324-62g/
Externe Tastaturen
ibmfiles.com - IBM UltraNav SK-8835 and UltraNav SK-8845:
http://www.ibmfiles.com/pages/sk88xx.htm
Sharktastica - SK-8835, SK-8840 & SK-8845 pointing stick
& UltraNav keyboards:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=ibm88xxultranav
Sharktastica - Lenovo ThinkPad USB Keyboard with TrackPoint
(SK-8855): https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=lenovo8855
Hacks
hackaday.io - WorkBook (Framework 13 + Classic KB +
TrackPoint):
https://hackaday.io/project/191579-workbook-framework-13-classic-kb-trackpoint
GitHub - thinkeys:
https://github.com/moduloindustries/thinkeys
Cherry MX ULP-Switches:
https://www.cherry.de/de-de/produkte/mx-switches/mx-ultra-low-profile
An ThinkPads angelehnte Tastaturen
TEX Shinobi: https://tex.com.tw/products/shinobi
TEX Shinobi (DIY):
https://tex.com.tw/products/shinobi-diy-type
IBM SK-8845:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/topics/trackpoint_kbs#SK-8845
IBM SK-8855:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/topics/trackpoint_kbs#SK-8855
TEX Shura: https://tex.com.tw/products/shura
TEX Shura (DIY): https://tex.com.tw/products/shura-diy-type
Sharktastica - IBM Model M13 TrackPoint II Keyboard:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelm13
Reddit r/thinkpad - IBM M4-1 Space Saver Keyboard and IBM
RT3200 Space Saver II Keyboard:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/n6d5n9/ibm_m41_space_saver_keyboard_and_ibm_rt3200_space/
GMK ThinkCaps: https://drop.com/talk/39383/gmk-think-caps
Bilderquellen
ThinkPad T14s G6:
https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/lenovo-supercharges-next-gen-ai-pcs-with-latest-yoga-slim-7x-and-thinkpad-t14s-gen-6/
Olympia Simplex:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Olympia_Simplex.jpg
Karl von Drais:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KarlDrais.jpg
Stenograph:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grandjean_stenographier_CNAM-IMG_0554.jpg
Remington Sholes:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Remington_Sholes_5_TSD_(2).JPG
QWERTY:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Latin_American.svg
QWERTZ:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Germany.svg
NEO:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NEO-Tastaturbelegung-Ebene1.svg
IBM Selectric:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_Selectric_(original),_owned_by_Andrea_Melita.jpg
MIT Whirlwind:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Museum_of_Science,_Boston,_MA_-_IMG_3168.JPG
IBM Model M:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_Model_M_Spanish_layout_Keyboard.jpg
IBM Model M SSK:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_Industrial_Model_M_Space_Saving_Keyboard_crop.jpg
IBM 327X-66 type Model B typewriter keyboard:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelb#327X-66
IBM 3158 console:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_System370_model_138.jpg
IBM 3727 Keyboard:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ibm-3727-operator-console-vintage-1960490405
Beamspring-Parts:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=ibmbeamspring
IBM 5556-005 Keyboard:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/64xspa/vintage_found_this_at_work_the_ibm_254key_kanji/
Solenoid:
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/xwhatsit-beam-spring-or-model-f-controller/
IBM Model F: https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelf
Buckling Spring:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=ibmbucklingspring
Ortholinear Split Ergonomic Model F Keyboard:
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/ortholinear-split-ergonomic-model-f-keyboard-auction-winners/
Split Ergonomic F15 Model F Keyboard:
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/split-ergonomic-f15-model-f-keyboard-auction-winners/
Unicomp Mini M:
https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/MINI_M
Cherry MX ULP:
https://www.cherry.de/de-de/produkt/mx-ulp-tactile
GitHub - mnhttn: https://github.com/fooker/mnhttn
X1 Carbon Gen 2-Tastatur:
https://sveino.blogspot.com/2014/12/ny-ultrabook-thinkpad-x1-carbon.html
Tastatur PCB Raimond Spekking / CC BY-SA 4.0 (via Wikimedia
Commons):
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Keyboard,_German_layout,_Lenovo_ThinkPad_CS12BL-85DO-0947.jpg
X230-Tastatur PCB Raimond Spekking / CC BY-SA 4.0 (via
Wikimedia Commons):
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Keyboard._German_layout,_Lenovo_ThinkPad-0833.jpg
ThinkLight:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ThinkPad_X200_with_ThinkLight.jpg
ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard I:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/directory?id=fm785IFq
ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard II:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/directory?id=ROF7fr3G
SK-8835: https://sharktastica.co.uk/directory?id=4MdiJsJm
SK-8845: https://sharktastica.co.uk/directory?id=5kHozWDX
T42-Touchpad:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Keyboard_IBM_ThinkPad_T42_(German_layout).jpg
ThinKeys: https://github.com/moduloindustries/thinkeys
TEX Shinobi:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/v7krbj/tex_shinobi/
TEX Bluetooth-Modul:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/fsismh/tex_shinobi_final_version/
TEX Shura: https://watchmono.com/e/tex-shura
IBM Model M 13: https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelm13
IBM ThinkPad Space Saver Keyboard with TrackPoint II:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/directory?id=OkzJPPCa
IBM M4-1 Space Saver Keyboard and IBM RT3200 Space Saver II
Keyboard:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/n6d5n9/ibm_m41_space_saver_keyboard_and_ibm_rt3200_space/
GMK ThinkCaps: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109588.0
Kontakt
E-Mail: podcast@thinkpad-museum.de
Webseite: https://thinkpad-museum.de/
Mastodon: https://podcasts.social/@thinkpadmuseum
Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#thinkpadmuseum:matrix.org
Unterstützen: https://ko-fi.com/stdevel
Spenden: https://thinkpad-museum.de/wishlist/
Früher waren sie ein Alleinstellungsmerkmal und auch heute
assoziiert man sie immer noch mit ThinkPads:
Tastaturen. Zusammen mit
Philipp vom CCH-Podcast steigen wir in einen
tiefen Kaninchenbau und werfen einen Blick auf die
Tastatur-Geschichte und beleuchten die Veränderungen der
ThinkPad-Tastaturen im Laufe der Jahre.
Mit dem SL400 gab es einen weiteren Neuzugang im
Museum. Die Intel-Variante des T14s G6
überrascht im Test mit einer langen Akkulaufzeit.
Shownotes Intro
Click! Clack! Hack!: https://www.clickclackhack.de/
Phil auf Mastodon: https://corteximplant.com/@0x17
TPM005 - Community: Philipp / 0x17:
https://thinkpad-museum.de/episode/tpm005-community-philipp-0x17/
Feedback und Ankündigungen
ThinkPad SL400: https://thinkpad-museum.de/collection/sl400/
Urlaub im Userspace-Podcast: https://user.space
News
Notebookcheck-Review zum T14s G6 (Intel):
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Intel-Imperium-schlaegt-zurueck-mit-21-Stunden-Akkulaufzeit-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T14s-Gen-6-Laptop-im-Test.1023364.0.html
Review der AMD-Variante:
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T14s-Gen-6-Laptop-im-Test-Die-AMD-Version-kehrt-zurueck-mit-dem-Ryzen-AI-7-Pro-360.926520.0.html
Test der Snapdragon-Version:
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T14s-Gen-6-Laptop-Snapdragon-X-Elite-fuehrt-zu-epischer-Akkulaufzeit.857315.0.html
Vorgeschichte zur Tastatur
Wikipedia - Tastaturbelegung:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tastaturbelegung
Wikipedia - Blickensderfer:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blickensderfer
Wikipedia - Neo (Tastaturbelegung):
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_(Tastaturbelegung)
IBM als Tastaturen-Hersteller
Wikipedia - Henry Mill:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Mill
Wikipedia - Karl von Drais:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_von_Drais
Heinz Nixdorf MuseumsForum: https://www.hnf.de
Mechanicon: https://mechanicon.io/
Sharktastica - IBM Beamspring:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=ibmbeamspring
Sharktastica - IBM Model B:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelb#310X
Clunker Keyboard: https://mechwild.com/product/clunker/
Model F Keyboards: https://www.modelfkeyboards.com
Chyrosran22 - IBM 5251 keyboard review (beamsprings):
https://youtu.be/1qw6ebySet0
Sharktastica - IBM Model F:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelf
Chyrosran22 - Customised IBM 4704 Model F107 keyboard review
“Project I” (capacitive buckling springs):
https://youtu.be/Wa3DmRPo9XM
Sharktastica - IBM Model M:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelm
Unicomp: https://www.pckeyboard.com/
Chyrosran22 - The Ultimate IBM Model M review (buckling
springs): https://youtu.be/r5H58uudo1Y
Generelles zu ThinkPad-Tastaturen
GitHub - mnhttn: https://github.com/fooker/mnhttn
CCH-CON: https://cch-con.de/
Reddit r/thinkpad - Anybody willing to test their keyboard
actuation (pressure) against mine (x395):
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/cyyojt/anybody_willing_to_test_their_keyboard_actuation/
Wikipedia - AZERTY-Tastaturbelegung:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY-Tastaturbelegung
ThinkWiki - 701: https://thinkwiki.de/701
Handwiki - IBM ThinkPad Butterfly keyboard:
https://handwiki.org/wiki/Engineering:IBM_ThinkPad_Butterfly_keyboard
Yoiko - TrackWrite:
https://en.ysrl.org/butterfly/trackwrite.html
Precision Keyboard
ThinkWiki - Precision Keyboard:
https://thinkwiki.de/Precision_Keyboard
ThinkWiki - Tastaturbeleuchtung:
https://thinkwiki.de/Tastaturbeleuchtung
cstan.io - Lenovo Thinkpad X230 2324-62G Review (2012):
https://cstan.io/post/2012/12/lenovo-thinkpad-x230-2324-62g/
Externe Tastaturen
ibmfiles.com - IBM UltraNav SK-8835 and UltraNav SK-8845:
http://www.ibmfiles.com/pages/sk88xx.htm
Sharktastica - SK-8835, SK-8840 & SK-8845 pointing stick
& UltraNav keyboards:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=ibm88xxultranav
Sharktastica - Lenovo ThinkPad USB Keyboard with TrackPoint
(SK-8855): https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=lenovo8855
Hacks
hackaday.io - WorkBook (Framework 13 + Classic KB +
TrackPoint):
https://hackaday.io/project/191579-workbook-framework-13-classic-kb-trackpoint
GitHub - thinkeys:
https://github.com/moduloindustries/thinkeys
Cherry MX ULP-Switches:
https://www.cherry.de/de-de/produkte/mx-switches/mx-ultra-low-profile
An ThinkPads angelehnte Tastaturen
TEX Shinobi: https://tex.com.tw/products/shinobi
TEX Shinobi (DIY):
https://tex.com.tw/products/shinobi-diy-type
IBM SK-8845:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/topics/trackpoint_kbs#SK-8845
IBM SK-8855:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/topics/trackpoint_kbs#SK-8855
TEX Shura: https://tex.com.tw/products/shura
TEX Shura (DIY): https://tex.com.tw/products/shura-diy-type
Sharktastica - IBM Model M13 TrackPoint II Keyboard:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelm13
Reddit r/thinkpad - IBM M4-1 Space Saver Keyboard and IBM
RT3200 Space Saver II Keyboard:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/n6d5n9/ibm_m41_space_saver_keyboard_and_ibm_rt3200_space/
GMK ThinkCaps: https://drop.com/talk/39383/gmk-think-caps
Bilderquellen
ThinkPad T14s G6:
https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/lenovo-supercharges-next-gen-ai-pcs-with-latest-yoga-slim-7x-and-thinkpad-t14s-gen-6/
Olympia Simplex:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Olympia_Simplex.jpg
Karl von Drais:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KarlDrais.jpg
Stenograph:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grandjean_stenographier_CNAM-IMG_0554.jpg
Remington Sholes:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Remington_Sholes_5_TSD_(2).JPG
QWERTY:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Latin_American.svg
QWERTZ:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Germany.svg
NEO:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NEO-Tastaturbelegung-Ebene1.svg
IBM Selectric:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_Selectric_(original),_owned_by_Andrea_Melita.jpg
MIT Whirlwind:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Museum_of_Science,_Boston,_MA_-_IMG_3168.JPG
IBM Model M:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_Model_M_Spanish_layout_Keyboard.jpg
IBM Model M SSK:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_Industrial_Model_M_Space_Saving_Keyboard_crop.jpg
IBM 327X-66 type Model B typewriter keyboard:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelb#327X-66
IBM 3158 console:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_System370_model_138.jpg
IBM 3727 Keyboard:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ibm-3727-operator-console-vintage-1960490405
Beamspring-Parts:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=ibmbeamspring
IBM 5556-005 Keyboard:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/64xspa/vintage_found_this_at_work_the_ibm_254key_kanji/
Solenoid:
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/xwhatsit-beam-spring-or-model-f-controller/
IBM Model F: https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelf
Buckling Spring:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=ibmbucklingspring
Ortholinear Split Ergonomic Model F Keyboard:
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/ortholinear-split-ergonomic-model-f-keyboard-auction-winners/
Split Ergonomic F15 Model F Keyboard:
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/split-ergonomic-f15-model-f-keyboard-auction-winners/
Unicomp Mini M:
https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/MINI_M
Cherry MX ULP:
https://www.cherry.de/de-de/produkt/mx-ulp-tactile
GitHub - mnhttn: https://github.com/fooker/mnhttn
X1 Carbon Gen 2-Tastatur:
https://sveino.blogspot.com/2014/12/ny-ultrabook-thinkpad-x1-carbon.html
Tastatur PCB Raimond Spekking / CC BY-SA 4.0 (via Wikimedia
Commons):
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Keyboard,_German_layout,_Lenovo_ThinkPad_CS12BL-85DO-0947.jpg
X230-Tastatur PCB Raimond Spekking / CC BY-SA 4.0 (via
Wikimedia Commons):
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Keyboard._German_layout,_Lenovo_ThinkPad-0833.jpg
ThinkLight:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ThinkPad_X200_with_ThinkLight.jpg
ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard I:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/directory?id=fm785IFq
ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard II:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/directory?id=ROF7fr3G
SK-8835: https://sharktastica.co.uk/directory?id=4MdiJsJm
SK-8845: https://sharktastica.co.uk/directory?id=5kHozWDX
T42-Touchpad:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Keyboard_IBM_ThinkPad_T42_(German_layout).jpg
ThinKeys: https://github.com/moduloindustries/thinkeys
TEX Shinobi:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/v7krbj/tex_shinobi/
TEX Bluetooth-Modul:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/fsismh/tex_shinobi_final_version/
TEX Shura: https://watchmono.com/e/tex-shura
IBM Model M 13: https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelm13
IBM ThinkPad Space Saver Keyboard with TrackPoint II:
https://sharktastica.co.uk/directory?id=OkzJPPCa
IBM M4-1 Space Saver Keyboard and IBM RT3200 Space Saver II
Keyboard:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/n6d5n9/ibm_m41_space_saver_keyboard_and_ibm_rt3200_space/
GMK ThinkCaps: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109588.0
Kontakt
E-Mail: podcast@thinkpad-museum.de
Webseite: https://thinkpad-museum.de/
Mastodon: https://podcasts.social/@thinkpadmuseum
Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#thinkpadmuseum:matrix.org
Unterstützen: https://ko-fi.com/stdevel
Spenden: https://thinkpad-museum.de/wishlist/
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