Episode 250: Jules Barros Lima on building diversity into open source communities

Guest Juliana Barros Lima Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes In
this episode of Sustain, Richard Littauer talks with Juliana
(Jules) Barros Lima, a full-stack developer and marketing director
at Associação Python Brasil. They explore Jules' involvement in
organizing and supporting Python events across Brazil, including
her work with PyLadies Recife and Python Brasil. The conversation
dives into the challenges of fostering diversity and inclusion in
open-source communities, touching on Jules’ "atomic diversity"
framework for engaging local, regional, and national groups. They
also discuss the impact of the pandemic on the Python community,
the importance of mentorship, and the role of diverse organizing
teams in creating codes of conduct that are empathetic and
effective. Jules emphasizes the significance of leadership
development, community collaboration, and stepping out of comfort
zones to strengthen open-source communities globally. Download now
to hear more! [00:01:57] Jules gives an overview of the Associação
Python Brasil, what they do, and the challenges of managing a large
community. [00:03:39] Jules discusses recent events organized and
supported by the association and mentions that Python Brasil 2024
will be held in Rio de Janeiro and expected to have at least
300-500 attendees. [00:04:49] Jules discusses the importance of
recognizing different regions’ unique cultural and economic
situations within Brazil. [00:06:31] We learn about the importance
of subgroups and identity-based communities like PyLadies, and
Jules shares insights from a talk given at PyCon US about
amplifying diversity within Python communities and introduces the
concept of “atomic diversity.” [00:11:43] Jules highlights how the
pandemic impacted Brazil’s Python community and discusses efforts
to rebuild the community through open source tools and events.
[00:14:07] Richard asks about how Brazil’s Python community fits
within the larger global context and how Brazilian developers can
bridge these gaps. Jules mentions that the community is still
recovering and growing, the challenges with language barriers, and
emphasizes the significance of maintaining open discussions and
using GitHub. [00:17:12] Richard and Jules discuss the importance
of having diverse organizing teams and codes of conduct (COCs).
[00:23:03] Jules offers insights into the organizational challenges
faced in building inclusive events and communities. One key
takeaway is the importance of engaging and listening to minority
groups, such as PyLadies and Rails Girls, and the need for
mentorship to help build leadership within underrepresented
communities. [00:26:52] Jules stresses that community work is about
giving back to the people and organizations that helped individuals
grow. [00:31:32] Jules shares strategies to foster new leadership
by giving people manageable tasks and responsibilities to build
confidence, engaging the community through social media,
storytelling, and the need for cross-community collaboration.
[00:36:00] Find out where you can follow Jules online. Spotlight
[00:36:39] Richard’s spotlight is ‘cat’ Command. [00:37:08] Jules’s
spotlight is the project, Querido Diário (Dear Diary). Links
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(https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Juliana (Jules)
Barros Lima Website (https://bento.me/julesbrlm) Python Brasil 2024
(https://2024.pythonbrasil.org.br/) Associação Python Brasil
(https://apyb.python.org.br/index.html) APyB (Python Brasil
Association) (https://apyb.python.org.br/) APyB Tarefas (Tasks)
(https://github.com/apyb/tarefas) APyB Comunidade (Discussions)
(https://github.com/apyb/comunidade/discussions) PyLadies Recife
(https://recife.pyladies.com/) PyLadies (https://pyladies.com/)
Rails Girls (https://railsgirls.com/) Querido Diário
(https://docs.queridodiario.ok.org.br/pt-br/latest/) Credits
Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by
Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/)
Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound
(https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Juliana Barros
Lima.