Vestas Offshore Blade Repair, Siemens Gamesa Floating Power Optimization
This week on Uptime Power-Up we discuss Vestas' offshore blade
repair method, Siemens Gamesa's way of optimizing power production
for floating turbines, and a fun way for kid's to collect their
Halloween candy. ign up now for Uptime Tech News,
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This week on Uptime Power-Up we discuss Vestas' offshore blade
repair method, Siemens Gamesa's way of optimizing power production
for floating turbines, and a fun way for kid's to collect their
Halloween candy. ign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email
update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored
by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather
Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the
show
on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit
Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes'
YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the
show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting -
https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech -
www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.comWind
Energy O&M Australia Conference - https://www.windaustralia.com
Allen Hall: Welcome to Power Up, the Uptime Podcast focused on the
new hot off the press technology that can change the world. Follow
along with me, Allen Hall, and IntelStor's Phil Totaro, as we
discuss the weird, the wild, and the game changing ideas that will
charge your energy future. All right, our first idea is from our
friends at Vestas, and it is a a relatively sophisticated system
for handling wind turned blades during maintenance, particularly
offshore. And if you think about how you try to manipulate a blade
offshore to do repair work on it, it's not, it's not easy to do
that on the deck of a ship. So the, the concept is you take a
crane, get the blade off the turbine, you move it down to the deck
of the ship and it sits in these cradles. And they move it from the
support cradles to a third device, which allows the blade to
rotate. And they could slide it into a shelter that's built up on
deck so you can actually repair the blade without getting wet or,
or too hot or too cold, probably, probably too cold in most cases
which is a really difficult task to do and Vestas, Phil, has, has
come up with a really unique idea on how to manage this. Philip
Totaro: Yeah, this, this one is very Interesting, because we have
comparable systems to this onshore, but it's obviously a lot harder
to implement offshore. So, for instance, having the tent, it's
going to sound like the stupidest thing ever, just like having a
tent around the blade to be able to, protect the, the area that
you're scarfing out or whatever, if you're doing that kind of a
repair. That's, that's important. That's an important
consideration. And while it's obviously possible to do that today
offshore the fact that you would have to use the crane to, place
and pick or use the, um, the fixtures that are attached to the
crane to rotate the blade and then lower it into the cradle. That
can be complicated and time consuming and expensive to do with the
on board crane on the vessel. So, the fact that you can lower it
into this rotating, we'll call it a rotating, cradle. Or fixture
and the fact that, they've, they've got this capability to be able
to put up the, the, tarp or tent to be able to protect the blade
to, to do the repairs, it's, it's really helpful and, and gives you
potentially improved quality in, in the repairs pretty much at the
same level that you would get from doing it onshore. Joel Saxum:
Yeah, I like the idea here that we're basically taking a concept
that we know if you've seen major blade repairs on the ground, a
lot of times a temporary tent is put up so that you can work in the
wind, rain, snow, cold, whatever it may be. Doing the same thing
here offshore. Important for operations and maintenance for the
future as we have to start doing some, larger and larger repairs to
these blades. But a big important part of this is if anybody that's
been involved in lifting operations, you want to minimize the
amount of times that you actually touch these blades. When you talk
about installing them offshore, you build them in the factory, you
move them from the factory to the yard, then you move them from the
yard to maybe Keyside. If the factory's close to the, to the water,
then it goes from keyside, another crane puts it on the boat, and
then the vessel might, might be a barge, and then the barge goes
out to the working rig, and then they have to pick it up. And every
time you pick a blade with a crane or slings or other kind of
fixtures. You have a risk for damaging it. So being able to drop it
on deck and move it and manipulate it however you need to, to do
repairs without having to re pick, re pick, re pick, especially in
a Marine environment is super important. So I like this idea. I
think it'll, you'll see it in the future, but in specialized cases.
Allen Hall: Yeah, it's a great idea. Our next is up from Siemens,
Gamesa. And this one has to do what they call ride through, right?
So the equipment on a wind turbine has to handle the grid voltage
fluctuations. In order to do that, a lot of the equipment that is
on a wind turbine has to be over designed, have special
capabilities to handle grid voltage fluctuations. And that leads to
additional costs and complexity into the equipment. Well, the
Siemens idea is to take a transformer, basically a variable
transformer, an auxiliary transformer, and have a quote unquote
electronic tap, and a transformer converts electricity from one
form into another, simply said. It can raise or lower the voltage,
same thing with current. So they're using semiconductors. So you've
got a primary and a secondary and a transformer. You can adjust the
amount of turns in a primary or a secondary using semiconductors as
a switch. So in a voltage fluctuation case, all the auxiliary
equipment in the turbine won't see it because this auxiliary
transformer with these semiconductors are going to stabilize the
voltage within two AC cycles. Which is really quick, and that
allows you to use much simpler, lower cost equipment in the turbine
field. This idea makes infinite sense to me. Depending on what the
cost is for this auxiliary transformer with all these semiconductor
switches, it could be a lot less expensive. Philip Totaro: Yeah,
and I think the impetus behind this was for larger onshore
turbines. Particularly in markets where you've got a need to
provide, well, a lot of fluctuation in, in grid voltage and
frequency, but also where you may have to be able to provide
ancillary services quickly. And so this technology will come in
really handy with that, and I, I, it's funny because every week
these, these patents publish and, and we're reading them at Intel
Store to, to extract whatever technology intelligence we can get
out of them or just catalog the, the, 60, 000 plus patents that I
think we've cataloged over the last 14 years now. There are ones
like this that actually stand out a little bit because it, it's not
the most revolutionary patent or technology in the world, but it's
something that's actually going to potentially impact cost and
improve function. of a wind turbine. And so we, we like ideas like
this and we want to see more ideas like this. Joel Saxum: Allen and
I talked with R& D test systems regularly and they have shared
with us some of the testing mechanisms that they have to basically
introduce grid problems backwards into turbines, into generators,
into control systems and all this, to make sure that they work. So
this is a system that Gets you that certification that gets you to
that level. Then it can handle that. But in like, like Phil said, a
more cost effective way. And one of the things I want to focus on
here is the speed of which it happens. So when it talks about two
AC cycles, okay, if we're in the United States, usually an AC
you're cycling, it's, or your power's at 60 Hertz. So that means
two of those 60 Hertz. So at one 30th of a second, this thing can
find the issue. Correct that issue. Or if you're in the European
Union and it's you're at 50 hertz, then it's in 1 25th of a second.
That's how fast these things will operate to make sure that that
grid interruption, that grid voltage problem or current problem
doesn't make it back up into the turbine to actually damage
something. So pretty impressive there. And doing it in a way that
saves costs. That's the kind of stuff that we need within the wind
industry to make us more competitive, or to make it more
competitive versus other forms of energy generation. Allen Hall:
Our last fun idea. Or our last idea of the week is a fun idea
regarding Halloween and a Halloween candy container. And if you've
just had the kids arrive to your house, usually they have some sort
of bag or a bucket that they want you to throw some candy into.
Well, this is a novel idea because this is sort of a hands free
containment device that is worn on the child's back. So it's like
a, a clear backpack. But on top of that, there's a chute that comes
from the backpack forward with like a little character with an open
end, like a I don't know, a monkey with his mouth open or an
elephant with his mouth open. So you actually throw the candy into
this little animal mouth and it deposits back in the backpack. So
the kid is hands free. I don't know why the kid would have to be
hands free to do this, but the concept is, well, they're carrying a
flashlight, they may be holding someone else's hand. It's a safety
feature device. Ed, Phil, it's also fun for the people that get to
throw candy at this kid and try to hit the target, I'd Philip
Totaro: assume. Well, hopefully they're not just chuck chucking it
at them, but I don't think that's almost as happy. Allen Hall: It's
all those little tiny ones, not those big full candy bars that you
give out, Phil. Philip Totaro: Are you a full size candy bar
household, Phil? Yes, absolutely. If if we're doing it, we're not
we're not miniature or anything. I mean, I'm not from Texas, but
every, everything is bigger there, and, and, as it should be. I
think this Joel Saxum: thing would work perfect for,
repair method, Siemens Gamesa's way of optimizing power production
for floating turbines, and a fun way for kid's to collect their
Halloween candy. ign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email
update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored
by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather
Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the
show
on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit
Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes'
YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the
show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting -
https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech -
www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.comWind
Energy O&M Australia Conference - https://www.windaustralia.com
Allen Hall: Welcome to Power Up, the Uptime Podcast focused on the
new hot off the press technology that can change the world. Follow
along with me, Allen Hall, and IntelStor's Phil Totaro, as we
discuss the weird, the wild, and the game changing ideas that will
charge your energy future. All right, our first idea is from our
friends at Vestas, and it is a a relatively sophisticated system
for handling wind turned blades during maintenance, particularly
offshore. And if you think about how you try to manipulate a blade
offshore to do repair work on it, it's not, it's not easy to do
that on the deck of a ship. So the, the concept is you take a
crane, get the blade off the turbine, you move it down to the deck
of the ship and it sits in these cradles. And they move it from the
support cradles to a third device, which allows the blade to
rotate. And they could slide it into a shelter that's built up on
deck so you can actually repair the blade without getting wet or,
or too hot or too cold, probably, probably too cold in most cases
which is a really difficult task to do and Vestas, Phil, has, has
come up with a really unique idea on how to manage this. Philip
Totaro: Yeah, this, this one is very Interesting, because we have
comparable systems to this onshore, but it's obviously a lot harder
to implement offshore. So, for instance, having the tent, it's
going to sound like the stupidest thing ever, just like having a
tent around the blade to be able to, protect the, the area that
you're scarfing out or whatever, if you're doing that kind of a
repair. That's, that's important. That's an important
consideration. And while it's obviously possible to do that today
offshore the fact that you would have to use the crane to, place
and pick or use the, um, the fixtures that are attached to the
crane to rotate the blade and then lower it into the cradle. That
can be complicated and time consuming and expensive to do with the
on board crane on the vessel. So, the fact that you can lower it
into this rotating, we'll call it a rotating, cradle. Or fixture
and the fact that, they've, they've got this capability to be able
to put up the, the, tarp or tent to be able to protect the blade
to, to do the repairs, it's, it's really helpful and, and gives you
potentially improved quality in, in the repairs pretty much at the
same level that you would get from doing it onshore. Joel Saxum:
Yeah, I like the idea here that we're basically taking a concept
that we know if you've seen major blade repairs on the ground, a
lot of times a temporary tent is put up so that you can work in the
wind, rain, snow, cold, whatever it may be. Doing the same thing
here offshore. Important for operations and maintenance for the
future as we have to start doing some, larger and larger repairs to
these blades. But a big important part of this is if anybody that's
been involved in lifting operations, you want to minimize the
amount of times that you actually touch these blades. When you talk
about installing them offshore, you build them in the factory, you
move them from the factory to the yard, then you move them from the
yard to maybe Keyside. If the factory's close to the, to the water,
then it goes from keyside, another crane puts it on the boat, and
then the vessel might, might be a barge, and then the barge goes
out to the working rig, and then they have to pick it up. And every
time you pick a blade with a crane or slings or other kind of
fixtures. You have a risk for damaging it. So being able to drop it
on deck and move it and manipulate it however you need to, to do
repairs without having to re pick, re pick, re pick, especially in
a Marine environment is super important. So I like this idea. I
think it'll, you'll see it in the future, but in specialized cases.
Allen Hall: Yeah, it's a great idea. Our next is up from Siemens,
Gamesa. And this one has to do what they call ride through, right?
So the equipment on a wind turbine has to handle the grid voltage
fluctuations. In order to do that, a lot of the equipment that is
on a wind turbine has to be over designed, have special
capabilities to handle grid voltage fluctuations. And that leads to
additional costs and complexity into the equipment. Well, the
Siemens idea is to take a transformer, basically a variable
transformer, an auxiliary transformer, and have a quote unquote
electronic tap, and a transformer converts electricity from one
form into another, simply said. It can raise or lower the voltage,
same thing with current. So they're using semiconductors. So you've
got a primary and a secondary and a transformer. You can adjust the
amount of turns in a primary or a secondary using semiconductors as
a switch. So in a voltage fluctuation case, all the auxiliary
equipment in the turbine won't see it because this auxiliary
transformer with these semiconductors are going to stabilize the
voltage within two AC cycles. Which is really quick, and that
allows you to use much simpler, lower cost equipment in the turbine
field. This idea makes infinite sense to me. Depending on what the
cost is for this auxiliary transformer with all these semiconductor
switches, it could be a lot less expensive. Philip Totaro: Yeah,
and I think the impetus behind this was for larger onshore
turbines. Particularly in markets where you've got a need to
provide, well, a lot of fluctuation in, in grid voltage and
frequency, but also where you may have to be able to provide
ancillary services quickly. And so this technology will come in
really handy with that, and I, I, it's funny because every week
these, these patents publish and, and we're reading them at Intel
Store to, to extract whatever technology intelligence we can get
out of them or just catalog the, the, 60, 000 plus patents that I
think we've cataloged over the last 14 years now. There are ones
like this that actually stand out a little bit because it, it's not
the most revolutionary patent or technology in the world, but it's
something that's actually going to potentially impact cost and
improve function. of a wind turbine. And so we, we like ideas like
this and we want to see more ideas like this. Joel Saxum: Allen and
I talked with R& D test systems regularly and they have shared
with us some of the testing mechanisms that they have to basically
introduce grid problems backwards into turbines, into generators,
into control systems and all this, to make sure that they work. So
this is a system that Gets you that certification that gets you to
that level. Then it can handle that. But in like, like Phil said, a
more cost effective way. And one of the things I want to focus on
here is the speed of which it happens. So when it talks about two
AC cycles, okay, if we're in the United States, usually an AC
you're cycling, it's, or your power's at 60 Hertz. So that means
two of those 60 Hertz. So at one 30th of a second, this thing can
find the issue. Correct that issue. Or if you're in the European
Union and it's you're at 50 hertz, then it's in 1 25th of a second.
That's how fast these things will operate to make sure that that
grid interruption, that grid voltage problem or current problem
doesn't make it back up into the turbine to actually damage
something. So pretty impressive there. And doing it in a way that
saves costs. That's the kind of stuff that we need within the wind
industry to make us more competitive, or to make it more
competitive versus other forms of energy generation. Allen Hall:
Our last fun idea. Or our last idea of the week is a fun idea
regarding Halloween and a Halloween candy container. And if you've
just had the kids arrive to your house, usually they have some sort
of bag or a bucket that they want you to throw some candy into.
Well, this is a novel idea because this is sort of a hands free
containment device that is worn on the child's back. So it's like
a, a clear backpack. But on top of that, there's a chute that comes
from the backpack forward with like a little character with an open
end, like a I don't know, a monkey with his mouth open or an
elephant with his mouth open. So you actually throw the candy into
this little animal mouth and it deposits back in the backpack. So
the kid is hands free. I don't know why the kid would have to be
hands free to do this, but the concept is, well, they're carrying a
flashlight, they may be holding someone else's hand. It's a safety
feature device. Ed, Phil, it's also fun for the people that get to
throw candy at this kid and try to hit the target, I'd Philip
Totaro: assume. Well, hopefully they're not just chuck chucking it
at them, but I don't think that's almost as happy. Allen Hall: It's
all those little tiny ones, not those big full candy bars that you
give out, Phil. Philip Totaro: Are you a full size candy bar
household, Phil? Yes, absolutely. If if we're doing it, we're not
we're not miniature or anything. I mean, I'm not from Texas, but
every, everything is bigger there, and, and, as it should be. I
think this Joel Saxum: thing would work perfect for,
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