Equinor Stabilized Floating Wind, Vestas Custom Root Angles
This week on Uptime Power-Up, Equinor's system to keep their
offshore floating wind platforms stable, Vestas's patent for
customizing blade root angles, and fresh air breathing device for
emergencies. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News,
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This week on Uptime Power-Up, Equinor's system to keep their
offshore floating wind platforms stable, Vestas's patent for
customizing blade root angles, and fresh air breathing device for
emergencies. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email
update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored
by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather
Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the
show
on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit
Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes'
YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the
show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting -
https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech -
www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.comJoin
us at The Wind Energy O&M Australia Conference -
https://www.windaustralia.com Allen Hall: Welcome to Power Up, the
Uptime Podcast focused on the new hot off the press technology that
can change the world. Follow along with me, Allen Hall, and
IntelStor's Phil Totaro, as we discuss the weird, the wild, and the
game changing ideas that will charge your energy future. Well guys,
our first idea of the week is from Equinor, and they have developed
a system and patented a system about trying to keep their offshore
floating wind platforms stable in rough seas. And that technique
involves using the turbine blades to actually control the blade
angle and the generator torque to counteract the motions of the
seas to provide stability. There's a lot of rotating mass on a wind
turbine, obviously, so the moment of inertia is there and it's kind
of self stabilizing to a point. But the seas are massive, and
they're still gonna cause the, the floating platforms to bounce a
little bit. This is an interesting patent. I always wonder about
these systems, what the effectives on the mechanical system, on the
rotating equipment. Does it start to wear on bearings? Does it
cause problems further downstream when you try to actively control
a turbine from swaying? Phil, this one is interesting in terms of
its approach. It's a relatively new patent though, right? Philip
Totaro: Yeah. So this, this was just issued a couple of weeks ago
and that's why we, we tagged it because we're tracking, new. Patent
publications and application publications on a weekly basis. We've
cataloged something like 60, 000 plus at Intel Store at this point.
But this one stood out because, first of all, it's patents from
owner operators and independent power producers are, are usually
rare and it's the bigger companies that tend to get them if they
get them at all. So the fact that Equinor actually made it a point
to, to patent something in general is, is noteworthy. The other
thing I take from this is that they originally filed this. In 2019
in the UK and that was the jurisdiction that they claimed the, the
patent priority filing in. The Highwind Scotland site was
originally commissioned and started producing power back in 2017.
So, the fact that they came up with this concept. And wanted to
basically, I mean Joel will be able to explain this in, in a bit
more detail, but it's almost like they wanted to use the turbine as
a giant gyro stabilizer on this floating platform. Joel Saxum: So
some quick math here on what this looks like in the real world. In
the North Sea, the average wave period is about seven to nine
seconds. So period of a wave is between crest to crest. So if we're
talking about trying to counteract what a platform might do between
a wave, you're talking seven to nine seconds from crest to crest.
Okay. And now you look at the these larger turbines and you're
looking at about the same RPM. Six to nine RPM, something like
that. Six to 10 RPM. So you're talking, and what I'm trying to get
to is, is if you're going to use a part of the turbine as an act,
an active part of the turbine to counteract some of this movement,
that's a lot of cycles on whatever that motor may be. So if it's a
pitch motor or. So, or a yaw motor moving and a pitch motor moving,
you're going to be doing this for every, basically every revolution
of that turbine. You're going to have to be moving stuff around.
And if history shows us anything from some of the active pitch
management turbines that we know of out in the field onshore, those
motors don't fare too well in the long run. So my thought here is
while this is a great concept on a, and I don't know if it's been
deployed and I don't know if it has to what degree of success.
That's a lot of moving and grooving for a lot of parts up tower
when they could be looking at a different way to stabilize this
thing. Allen Hall: Our next idea is from Vestas, and this idea is a
way to create the root end of a blade that's angled slightly, so
when it connects to the hub, The, the blade has either a sweep
angle back or it's coned angle forward, so it's a series of spacers
that you can put into the tooling to create this little bit of
angularity to the, the blade. The, I guess the concept, Phil, is
that you could customize the root angles to give you sweep or
coning. For each turbine, for a specific location in the world and
a wind farm to improve power output and maybe even durability, but
it does sound rather complex on the application of this technology.
Philip Totaro: Yeah, and it's, it's interesting because the, the,
this is one of these concepts that we talk about on Power Up Here.
From time to time, that, that's a bit of an engineer's fantasy,
I'll, I'll call it where good idea and technologically feasible,
not really a commercially viable solution to potentially a
technical problem and a challenge that exists reason being that,
like you're saying, if you start developing site specific designs,
while that's good for, energy extraction and, and can have a
beneficial impact on AEP, it makes your operations and maintenance
overly complex, particularly around sourcing and storage of spare
parts. But this could be a step in, in a better direction if they
could also find a way to make the root end more efficient.
Potentially a little more modular where it, it could be kind of
swappable. Maybe, it involves some of these shims and, and other
kind of approaches that, that have been proposed. Joel Saxum: Let's
take O& M out of this and start a little bit earlier in the
project phase to see if this thing is feasible. And right now I'm
looking at financially feasible from a risk standpoint and from an
insurance standpoint. Because right now as it sits in the
marketplace, and I'm just talking in the US cause that's what I've
been dealing with the last few weeks, is, People looking for a
blade. Hey, can you find this blade? Do you, do you know where
these blades are? Can I get a set of blades here? Can I get one of
these? Can I get one of those? Because I've got long lead times.
I've got business interruption costs that are skyrocketing. I've
got all kinds of things going on that are non, not conducive to
uptime for turbines. And this is based on what we sit today as
basic blades, right? A blade. You name it, blades should work from
turbine to turbine. Of course, we know that they have to be matched
for weights and bending root moments and all these different
things, but it's hard enough to get those simple blades that are
supposed to be manufactured in bulk to go onto these turbines, to
keep them running. I don't think from a, if you talk to banks right
now or, or larger financial institutions or the insurance side of
things for risk wise, they're not going to want to take that risk
on. And they're not going to finance a project that has something
like this built into it. That's my take. Allen Hall: Our fun patent
of the week is a fresh air breathing device for emergency building
evacuations. And it's from a single inventor, and in response to
some tragic hotel fires, the inventor developed this breathing
apparatus that's pretty simple and potentially life saving. It uses
a flexible tube that can be inserted through the toilet water trap
at the bottom. And excess, quote unquote, fresh air from the
building's plumbing vent system. It includes optional charcoal
filters, and I would option for that. Because you're just coming
into raw sewage, essentially, on the other side. But there is
breathable air there, and it can include, like, a mouthpiece, a
snorkel mouthpiece, or even a full face mask. Now, I've only seen
this invention in the movies, in the Kingsman movie, they have this
scene play out. where they have to take a pipe and basically
snorkel it through the toilet to breathe to get through the
exercise that they're doing. The only other thing that worries me
about this, Phil, is I don't know if I want to be stuck to this
toilet. I'd rather be getting the heck out of the building instead
of trying to breathe sewer air. Philip Totaro: This is also, like
we just talked about with the Vestas patent, it's one of those
things where, you know, it's a very specific thing, like, you're in
a building that's on fire, and maybe you can't get out, but
somebody can get the ladder, all the way up to where you're at, and
so you need to just buy yourself some time, so your toilet snorkel
is is available for you in, in that scenario. But yeah, I mean,
most people, they're not gonna bust out their toilet snorkel unless
they just can't get out of a burning building in the first place,
so I, I don't know, scenario I would need to, utilize this in, but
because I'm probably, if the building I'm in is on fire, I'm, I'm
evacuating. Joel Saxum: I think there's a couple things you're, you
have to, and I'm gonna go back to, focusing on operations. You
gotta make sure you get that hose, first off, all the way up and
through the toilet water, so you're not sucking toilet water. And
also, I don't think you want that hose on the other end to be
touching the inside of the pipe in any which way,
offshore floating wind platforms stable, Vestas's patent for
customizing blade root angles, and fresh air breathing device for
emergencies. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email
update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored
by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather
Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the
show
on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit
Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes'
YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the
show? Email us! Pardalote Consulting -
https://www.pardaloteconsulting.comWeather Guard Lightning Tech -
www.weatherguardwind.comIntelstor - https://www.intelstor.comJoin
us at The Wind Energy O&M Australia Conference -
https://www.windaustralia.com Allen Hall: Welcome to Power Up, the
Uptime Podcast focused on the new hot off the press technology that
can change the world. Follow along with me, Allen Hall, and
IntelStor's Phil Totaro, as we discuss the weird, the wild, and the
game changing ideas that will charge your energy future. Well guys,
our first idea of the week is from Equinor, and they have developed
a system and patented a system about trying to keep their offshore
floating wind platforms stable in rough seas. And that technique
involves using the turbine blades to actually control the blade
angle and the generator torque to counteract the motions of the
seas to provide stability. There's a lot of rotating mass on a wind
turbine, obviously, so the moment of inertia is there and it's kind
of self stabilizing to a point. But the seas are massive, and
they're still gonna cause the, the floating platforms to bounce a
little bit. This is an interesting patent. I always wonder about
these systems, what the effectives on the mechanical system, on the
rotating equipment. Does it start to wear on bearings? Does it
cause problems further downstream when you try to actively control
a turbine from swaying? Phil, this one is interesting in terms of
its approach. It's a relatively new patent though, right? Philip
Totaro: Yeah. So this, this was just issued a couple of weeks ago
and that's why we, we tagged it because we're tracking, new. Patent
publications and application publications on a weekly basis. We've
cataloged something like 60, 000 plus at Intel Store at this point.
But this one stood out because, first of all, it's patents from
owner operators and independent power producers are, are usually
rare and it's the bigger companies that tend to get them if they
get them at all. So the fact that Equinor actually made it a point
to, to patent something in general is, is noteworthy. The other
thing I take from this is that they originally filed this. In 2019
in the UK and that was the jurisdiction that they claimed the, the
patent priority filing in. The Highwind Scotland site was
originally commissioned and started producing power back in 2017.
So, the fact that they came up with this concept. And wanted to
basically, I mean Joel will be able to explain this in, in a bit
more detail, but it's almost like they wanted to use the turbine as
a giant gyro stabilizer on this floating platform. Joel Saxum: So
some quick math here on what this looks like in the real world. In
the North Sea, the average wave period is about seven to nine
seconds. So period of a wave is between crest to crest. So if we're
talking about trying to counteract what a platform might do between
a wave, you're talking seven to nine seconds from crest to crest.
Okay. And now you look at the these larger turbines and you're
looking at about the same RPM. Six to nine RPM, something like
that. Six to 10 RPM. So you're talking, and what I'm trying to get
to is, is if you're going to use a part of the turbine as an act,
an active part of the turbine to counteract some of this movement,
that's a lot of cycles on whatever that motor may be. So if it's a
pitch motor or. So, or a yaw motor moving and a pitch motor moving,
you're going to be doing this for every, basically every revolution
of that turbine. You're going to have to be moving stuff around.
And if history shows us anything from some of the active pitch
management turbines that we know of out in the field onshore, those
motors don't fare too well in the long run. So my thought here is
while this is a great concept on a, and I don't know if it's been
deployed and I don't know if it has to what degree of success.
That's a lot of moving and grooving for a lot of parts up tower
when they could be looking at a different way to stabilize this
thing. Allen Hall: Our next idea is from Vestas, and this idea is a
way to create the root end of a blade that's angled slightly, so
when it connects to the hub, The, the blade has either a sweep
angle back or it's coned angle forward, so it's a series of spacers
that you can put into the tooling to create this little bit of
angularity to the, the blade. The, I guess the concept, Phil, is
that you could customize the root angles to give you sweep or
coning. For each turbine, for a specific location in the world and
a wind farm to improve power output and maybe even durability, but
it does sound rather complex on the application of this technology.
Philip Totaro: Yeah, and it's, it's interesting because the, the,
this is one of these concepts that we talk about on Power Up Here.
From time to time, that, that's a bit of an engineer's fantasy,
I'll, I'll call it where good idea and technologically feasible,
not really a commercially viable solution to potentially a
technical problem and a challenge that exists reason being that,
like you're saying, if you start developing site specific designs,
while that's good for, energy extraction and, and can have a
beneficial impact on AEP, it makes your operations and maintenance
overly complex, particularly around sourcing and storage of spare
parts. But this could be a step in, in a better direction if they
could also find a way to make the root end more efficient.
Potentially a little more modular where it, it could be kind of
swappable. Maybe, it involves some of these shims and, and other
kind of approaches that, that have been proposed. Joel Saxum: Let's
take O& M out of this and start a little bit earlier in the
project phase to see if this thing is feasible. And right now I'm
looking at financially feasible from a risk standpoint and from an
insurance standpoint. Because right now as it sits in the
marketplace, and I'm just talking in the US cause that's what I've
been dealing with the last few weeks, is, People looking for a
blade. Hey, can you find this blade? Do you, do you know where
these blades are? Can I get a set of blades here? Can I get one of
these? Can I get one of those? Because I've got long lead times.
I've got business interruption costs that are skyrocketing. I've
got all kinds of things going on that are non, not conducive to
uptime for turbines. And this is based on what we sit today as
basic blades, right? A blade. You name it, blades should work from
turbine to turbine. Of course, we know that they have to be matched
for weights and bending root moments and all these different
things, but it's hard enough to get those simple blades that are
supposed to be manufactured in bulk to go onto these turbines, to
keep them running. I don't think from a, if you talk to banks right
now or, or larger financial institutions or the insurance side of
things for risk wise, they're not going to want to take that risk
on. And they're not going to finance a project that has something
like this built into it. That's my take. Allen Hall: Our fun patent
of the week is a fresh air breathing device for emergency building
evacuations. And it's from a single inventor, and in response to
some tragic hotel fires, the inventor developed this breathing
apparatus that's pretty simple and potentially life saving. It uses
a flexible tube that can be inserted through the toilet water trap
at the bottom. And excess, quote unquote, fresh air from the
building's plumbing vent system. It includes optional charcoal
filters, and I would option for that. Because you're just coming
into raw sewage, essentially, on the other side. But there is
breathable air there, and it can include, like, a mouthpiece, a
snorkel mouthpiece, or even a full face mask. Now, I've only seen
this invention in the movies, in the Kingsman movie, they have this
scene play out. where they have to take a pipe and basically
snorkel it through the toilet to breathe to get through the
exercise that they're doing. The only other thing that worries me
about this, Phil, is I don't know if I want to be stuck to this
toilet. I'd rather be getting the heck out of the building instead
of trying to breathe sewer air. Philip Totaro: This is also, like
we just talked about with the Vestas patent, it's one of those
things where, you know, it's a very specific thing, like, you're in
a building that's on fire, and maybe you can't get out, but
somebody can get the ladder, all the way up to where you're at, and
so you need to just buy yourself some time, so your toilet snorkel
is is available for you in, in that scenario. But yeah, I mean,
most people, they're not gonna bust out their toilet snorkel unless
they just can't get out of a burning building in the first place,
so I, I don't know, scenario I would need to, utilize this in, but
because I'm probably, if the building I'm in is on fire, I'm, I'm
evacuating. Joel Saxum: I think there's a couple things you're, you
have to, and I'm gonna go back to, focusing on operations. You
gotta make sure you get that hose, first off, all the way up and
through the toilet water, so you're not sucking toilet water. And
also, I don't think you want that hose on the other end to be
touching the inside of the pipe in any which way,
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