Starmer’s ‘black holes’: What will fill them?

“Things will get worse before they get better.” That was the
gloomy warning given by Keir Starmer this week, in his first
major speech since becoming prime minister.


Labour have previously blamed the Tories for the ‘economic black
hole’ they say they’ve found in the public finances since taking
office. But what did Starmer mean when he referred to a ‘societal
black hole’ left by his predecessors? And if there are cracks in
British society, how does the government fix them?


Amol and Nick are joined by Starmer’s former director of policy
and expert on the working class Claire Ainsley – now a director
at the left-leaning thinktank, the Progressive Policy Institute.


And Tom Walker - the comedian behind the fictitious political
correspondent Jonathan Pie - is in the studio to give his moment
of the week and reminisce on some of his favourite bloopers by
news reporters.


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