48 - Lee Daniels (The United States vs. Billie Holiday)

Director, Writer, Producer Lee Daniels joins host Jenny Curtis
and Special Guest Co-Host Dana Gourrier to talk about his life
long drive towards entertainment and his latest movie, the United
States Vs. Billie Holiday.


00:56 – Taking a moment to get to know this episode’s co-host,
Dana Gourrier, a little better.


2:37 — Dana boils herself down in a nutshell as strong
artist and shares the magical moment when you feel connected to
the material you’re acting.


3:37 — One of Dana’s favorite things about acting is to one day
be able to take everything she’s learned and transition into
directing. This leads into the discussion Jenny and Dana are
about to have with Lee Daniels, who directed Dana in the United
States Vs. Billie Holiday.


4:09 — Jenny Curtis introduces Lee Daniels and welcomes him
to the show.


4:34 — Lee Daniels discusses where he found his creative
spark. For him, it began with when he watched Rogers and
Hammerstein’s Cinderella at six years old. He describes the
feeling of almost leaving his body as he imagined himself as
Cinderella, and began directing his cousins and siblings.


6:06 — Lee describes discovering the theater section of his
library at eight years old. He pulled out “Who’s Afraid of
Virginia Wolf?” took it home and began directing his family in
the parts.


7:29 — Dana asks if Lee felt a connection to his fellow high
schoolers in theater. Like Dana, Lee felt some of that connection
in high school, but he discovered a deeper comradery in the first
few years of college theatre.


9:30  — Lee talks about always having been in entertainment
and knowing from a young age that’s what he wanted to do.


9:58 — Lee had no money, lied to his mom about still being
in college, and hopped on a bus to Los Angeles. He was homeless,
living in the back of a church, and began directing small theatre
projects. Some people get afraid of being a nomad, he wasn’t.


12:30 — Lee speaks about how he fell into owning his own at home
nursing care agency.


13:56 — Lee shares how getting very rich young lead him down a
path of using drugs. He went through a period of watching and
holding many friends as they died and he attributes those
experiences to where the depth of his creative work comes from.


 16:06 — Lee talks about his abrupt transition of
selling his nursing agency to become a production assistant for
one of his nursing client’s son.


17:50 — Lee says that his work has been driven by honesty.
He believes that his honest an true connection with the crew and
actors shows in the work he creates.


18:08 — Dana and Lee talk about her role in the United
States Vs. Billie Holiday and what it’s like being on one of Lee
Daniel’s sets. Dana calls Lee an actor’s director.


22:00 — Lee addresses situations on set that now in
hindsight he understands were feelings of prejudice against him
and racism. At the time he wanted to believe the best of
everyone, but recent events made him see those actions against
him differently. He feels he had a lot of blinders on with people
being prejudice against him for his race, because he was so
focused on the discrimination and abuse he’d endured for being
gay.


25:00 — Lee talks about working with up and coming actors.
He loves working with first time actors because they really trust
you as the director. A lot of actors are jaded by directors and
editors who haven’t been able to capture the magic of their work
when they are bringing their all.


29:24  — Lees speaks about a scene in the United States Vs.
Billie Holiday the took a little more work to capture the magic.


32:05 — Lee opens up about the United States Vs Billie
Holiday being the first film he directed completely sober. He
believed it was important to respect Billie Holiday and their
shared substance issues by abstaining and starting his own
journey of recovery.


36:38 — Lee admits to second guessing his directorial
choices more when sober.


38:23 — Lee explains the development process of the United
States Vs. Billie Holiday.


42:28 — Lee speaks about confronting issues of racism in this
country being a part of the spirit of the film. He had an
awakening in the editing room as racism came to the forefront of
the news cycle in America.


44:39 — The conversation pivots to discussing Lee Daniel’s films
the Paperboy and Monsters Ball.


49:08 — Lee talks about how the United States Vs. Billie
Holiday was shot on film with the intention of it being shown on
the big screen. He’s grateful that Hulu is running the film, but
he will miss being in a theatre and around people experiencing
the film for the first time.


51:09 — Lee shares what it means to him to have a life in
storytelling. He doesn’t know of another way to exist.


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