Ep. 70: Vidal Espinosa - Everyone is Broke! They Just Don't Know it Yet...

Contact Vidal Espinosa:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/vidalespinosa/


Invictus Advisors:
https://invictus-advisors.com/


FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Mitch: (00:05)
Welcome back to Count Me In, IMA's podcast about all things
affecting the accounting and finance world. I'm your host Mitch
Roshong and I am here with the 70th episode of our series. Our
guest for today's conversation is Vidal Espinosa, the principal
partner and CFO of Invictus Advisors. In his conversation with
Adam Vidal explains why he believes everyone is broke, they just
don't know it yet. And he tells us how accounting is about way
more than just the numbers. Let's listen into their conversation
to get these answers now.


Adam: (00:41)
So you have this saying, that is, and I just have to ask, what do
you mean when you say everyone is broke and they don't know it
yet? It just baffles me when I hear that.


Vidal: (00:52)
Well, it's probably exactly what you think it means. We all are
broke and we don't even know it yet. But our saying goes most for
business owners, most business owners think that, they're making
it, they think that their business, it's amazing because they're
taking some money to their personal bank accounts and their
living the life. Unfortunately, when they review their financial
statements, they realize that they're broke. They realized that
holy, I am not making what I thought I was making. That's what we
mean.


Adam: (01:51)
So how do you get started on that process of finding out that
you're broke?


Vidal: (01:56)
It's very simple. People are afraid, extremely afraid of knowing
their numbers, of knowing their finances, of knowing how they are
doing because deep down they really know that they're broke. So
it's very easy to go into your bank account online and see the
balance, and as long as there's money there, you're doing good.
Oh, okay. Perfect. But they don't take into consideration
everything that they owe. So we have a very simple system, which
is two checking accounts for your business. Even for yourself,
two checking accounts. One checking account, it would be for all
your income, all your revenue, either from your payroll, from
your business, whatever it is. And the other one, it's just your
expense account. Meaning that every single monthly payment,
meaning every single vendor that you have to pay goes from that
account only. So at the end of the month, instead of reconciling
which you need to do, which is reviewing every transaction in
your bank account versus what you think it is. The income
account, wherever the revenue and payroll came out, the
difference, the balance that it's there, that's your profit,
that's for you. You realize that sometimes that's going to be
negative. That's when you realize your realization of, oh, I
might be broke, comes true.


Adam: (03:43)
Now that makes a lot of sense. And I could see how somebody could
apply that even in their personal accounts as well, not just
their business.


Vidal: (03:51)
Exactly. Exactly. You can use it for your business or your
personal life. It's very simple. It's very simple. And you
realized that your broke, as pretty much everyone right now in
America, a lot of us are, are noticing that we are living
paycheck to paycheck. We actually had a discussion and a
conversation like, I don't know if you remember last year when
the government shut down and they furlough a lot of government
employees, but they were living paycheck to paycheck. I would
have thought that we would have learned from that experience, and
I'm advising that we did not. We did not learn from that
experience just to save or rainy days like now.


Adam: (04:42)
Definitely. And I guess a lot of times we don't learn from our
history. We don't learn from what's happening right in front of
us. And then when the, when the rainy day does come, it's such a
stress and we get past it. We don't, we haven't learned from our
own experiences either. And so what can somebody do to kind of
get started to getting over the broke, the brokenness?


Vidal: (05:05)
Just very simple. Open two checking accounts or open an
additional checking account that it's only for your revenue, and
I mean revenue as if you're a business owner or your income only
income sales or if you're in a working just your payroll goes
through that account. That's it. You'll probably gonna have, two
or three transactions in that, that account, which is . the two
deposits on the 15th and the 30th and one, two, three transfers
to your expense account just to cover your expenses. The balance
on your revenue, on your income, on your funding account, that's
your profit, and we are going to realize that we are broke.


Adam: (05:51)
So once you start seeing your profits and you start understanding
that, okay, I am broke, but now maybe I'm not as broke, what's
the next step?


Vidal: (05:59)
Start controlling your expenses. Start controlling your expenses.
It's on you. And even as a business owner or as an individual,
you're going to see that on your expense account, lunch,
Starbucks, a lot of things that are not necessary that you can
actually live without. And yes, you can splurge a couple of times
a month and things like that, but if you want to get out of
broke, you're going to start by controlling your expenses. But
really if you want to generate well and or get out of being
broke, increase your revenue. I had an experience with one of our
clients, very, very good friends of ours. They've been a client
of ours like four, eight, nine, 10 years, 10 years, and we met
them at a loan event. They were lending micro lending, for small,
small, small business owners. So this company, they got a loan,
and they came to us to help them manage their cash, structure
their business. And in our very first meeting they said, Oh, we
got a $10,000 loan. Mind you, that loan was like for, 25  or
30% interest. It was a micro, microloan. It was from, for a
startup. So that money is very expensive. Six months down the
road, they spent all the money and they came back to us and say,
Oh, we're going to apply again for the loan. And I said, no, no,
no, you're not going to apply for the loan. You're not going to
apply for another loan. Utilize your energy and your focus on how
we are going to increase our revenue. How are we going to make
money not getting a loan or getting new credit cards to increase
our revenue or our income. So, to make a long story short, now
their revenue, it's $5 million.


Adam: (08:06)
The members of IMA are accountants, management accountants and
they're the ones kind of looking at the books and finding all
these things. You know, what if you're an analyst in your
company, and you need to go to your CFO and say, Hey, we're
really broke. What are we going to do?


Vidal: (08:24)
I would have approached my CFO with ideas. I would approach my
CFO on ideas on how to increase revenue. Now a days accountants,
we cannot just be bookkeepers and analyzing financial statements
and saying, oh, your working capital is this much, your, your
debt is this much, your accounts receivables are this, your
turnaround on inventory is this and that. You cannot do that.
It's no longer feasible. What you need to do is you need to be
operational, and you need to focus on sales. You need to focus
not on tax strategies, not on saving on cost reduction on
manufacturing, if you're in manufacturing industry. That's of the
past. You need to be more operational focus on generating
revenue, focusing on the marketing side of the business, on sales
and stop focusing on the profit and loss. As of, what is it?
March 13th? March 16th, when the economy close, it became an
economy of a balance sheet. Is my company, do we ...