Learning Not to Care w/ Michael Pfohl

Secret Stuff is the ultimate closed mouth smile of a band. Armed
with wit, humor and twinkly guitar riffs, they dive headfirst
into the grungy, gory bits, fleshing out each shard of a single
emotion, all while refusing to take themselves too seriously.
Cascading through ebbs of soft vulnerability and swells of
shouting (when the songs really buck), and a discography littered
with pop culture Easter eggs, they’re as much fun as they are
cathartic. It’s a layered listening experience that will keep you
coming back in hopes of unveiling another piece, and revealing
the secret stuff.  Listen in as we deep dive into Michael
Pfohl’s musical journey, Nashville, his work in the DIY
community, and get to the bottom of those iconic song titles.