Episode 62 - CHRISPIN PHIRI ROASTS LINDIWE SISULU & I TEST HIS BEEF

Veteran African National Congress  leader and member of
Cabinet Lindiwe Sisulu has written a column (
https://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/opinion/lindiwe-sisulu-hi-mzansi-have-we-seen-justice-d9b151e5-e5db-4293-aa21-dcccd52a36d3
) that has everyone talking. It essentially critiques the rule of
law, the judiciary and the constitution but it is hard to know
precisely what the main thesis and argument is. If you have the
gift of interpretation, you might be able to tell the rest of
us. 

Nevertheless, one of the responses
(https://www.news24.com/news24/columnists/guestcolumn/opinion-chrispin-phiri-lindiwe-sisulus-attack-on-constitution-a-distortion-of-anc-policy-20220110) 
is from Chrispin Phiri, the minister of justice's spokesperson,
who wrote a scathing response to and critique of Sisulu's
article. He insists he did so "in his personal capacity." (Pass
me the salt please?)

I invited him to explain why he was so touched by her position,
and I then pressure tested his analysis by attempting - not an
easy task - to reconstruct Sisulu's view that the constitution
has not delivered justice. 

It's all a hot ANC mess but ... intriguing. I invited her - the
minister that is - on but her spokesman tells me they're not
interested.  (It must be hard to try and defend weird
reasoning.)

Listen to this spirited exchange I had, in the meantime, with
Chrispin Phiri.