It's The Space Between The Notes (The National, The Bristol Cider Salon)

Get your indie rock sensibilities tuned up with Gabe Cook, Grant
Hutchison and Martyn Goodwin-Sharman as they build a fake empire
at the Neutral Cider Hotel!


Gabe kicks things off with a reflection on the Bristol Cider
Salon. Beyond the cider makers that stood out (it’s a long list)
they also chat about secret fleshy meetings, the awkwardness of
being pseudo celebrities, the size of Sam from Wilding's arms,
Grant’s overflow status at his table and Martyn’s special “Cider
Dance” to the delight of Cider Jim, Gemma and anyone else nearby.


Then it’s onto our big interview where we welcomed two-fifths of
one of the most successful indie rock bands in the world. The
National took the long route to success with the age-old approach
of touring relentlessly and writing music for themselves. They’ve
worked with groundbreaking artists including Justin Vernon (Bon
Iver), Sufjan Stevens and most recently, Taylor Swift. Checking
into the hotel this week, it’s Aaron Dessner and Scott Devendorf
of The National.


The guys chat everything; being creative during the pandemic,
working with Taylor Swift and her Folklore album, touring with
Frightened Rabbit, the drain of touring, Martyn’s favorite song
from The National, Aaron getting doxxed and the thousands of
threats they received, their perspectives on streaming, Aaron’s
experience producing Frightened Rabbit’s last full length album
(Painting of a Panic Attack), Big Red Machine and what a tour for
them might look like, when The National anticipates releasing new
music, how they rep their Ohio roots, their process for writing
music and their outlook on the future.


Finally, we hit the Speakpipe yet again for a couple of great
calls. First up, Blair has a question about the influence of
certain swamp creature on Scottish children and Timmy Towers
wants to know more about terrior and Gabe is absolutely willing
to blag it for his longtime friend from New Ze


THE TEAM
Gabe is a cider expert: The Ciderologist / Substack
Grant owns a cider shop: Aeble Cider Shop
Martyn loves to write about cider: CiderShit

Executive Producer/Editor: Scott Riggs
Music: Billy Kennedy

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