"How Can We All Make it into the Future?" -Episode #18: Pınar Yoldaş in conversation with Gabriel Kozlowski

In the latest episode of '74PODCAST Series "How Can We All Make it
into the Future?", Pınar Yoldaş, professor and all-in-one designer,
whose works deal with art, neuroscience, and ecology through the
lens of speculative fiction, and Gabriel Kozlowski, architect
researching and teaching at MIT, and Assistant Curator for the 17th
International Architecture Exhibition – La Biennale di Venezia
2020, talk about eco-nihilism and environmental recovery while
questioning the commitment of the artist to the society in the
post-pandemic world.