“How Can We All Make it into the Future?” Episode #34: Kabage Karanja and Stella Mutegi moderated by Gabriel Kozlowski

In this episode of '74PODCAST Series "How Can We All Make it into
the Future?", founders of Cave Bureau, Kabage Karanja and Stella
Mutegi talk to Gabriel Kozlowski, architect and assistant curator
for the 17th International Architecture Exhibition – La Biennale
di Venezia 2021, about colonialism in relation to the current
social and political climate, the rich history of caves in Kenya,
the ways how their project categorization resemble the lifecycle
of a Kenyan as well as their work at Anthropocene Museum.