Cookies and Screams AKA The Empire Pilot

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Happy Wine Wednesday! As you'll hear in the intro, this week's
episode is one that I've been wanting to do for a very long
time.  Special guest Candi returns this week to discuss the
pilot episode of the messy, messy Fox drama/musical -
Empire.  We've got the main discussion about the pilot
episode and a really fun spoiler segment in which we discuss the
top 10 ridiculous Empire moments.

Empire is my current comfort show and having watched the entire
series multiple times, unpacking this mess with Candi was like
therapy.  As for the pilot, we talk about the casting of
Cookie and Lucious.  Could you see Monique as Cookie or
Wesley Snipes as Lucious? We also talk about our impressions of
the newcomers to whom we were introduced, including Bryshere
Gray, Trai Byers, and Jussie Smollett.  If you're looking
for commentary about Jussie outside of his role on Empire, you'll
have to stick around for the spoiler segment.

You can't talk about Empire without touching on the show's
amazing music, so we share our favorite songs from the
pilot.  We discuss our favorite characters from this
introductory episode and share what we liked and what we didn't
like overall.  In our closing arguments, we share whether or
not you should continue with Empire if you've only watched the
pilot.  And, as always, we get thirsty! Who is so hot you
might do a 17-year bid in prison for them?

During the spoiler segment, we talk ridiculous moments, thoughts
on the series finale, what Empire got right, and Empire's
greatest crime against television writing.  We get into the
Jussie of it all and remind folks that he wasn't the only one
with some off-screen messiness as the series wrapped.  Say
what you want about Empire, Lee Daniels leveraged his success to
attract some serious heavy hitters to the series and we discuss
which big name actor appearances we  enjoyed.  I also
stand in my truth about my hatred of musicals, the very limited
list of musicals that I actually enjoy, and Candi very kindly
reminds me that Empire is in fact a musical show.

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