Hope and Envy: The Binds of Leadership, Part 2

This week, Dan Allender continues a conversation with Rachael
Clinton about the binds faced by many pastors and Christian
leaders, who are expected to live without any complexities or
flaws. Rachael is a pastor, teacher, therapeutic practitioner,
and member of the Allender Center Teaching Staff. She and Dan
discuss the ways in which we place our leaders on pedestals, only
to feel a sense of relief when they fall off, a bind that leads
us to consider the nature of hope, envy, the brokenness in our
stories, and the coming fullness of the kingdom of God.