127: Phil Collins (Genesis, Brand X, Phil Collins)

"Come on Joe, give me your worst!" Phil Collins tells Joe about
concert toms; navigating the world of massive fame; unearthing
resentment towards his father, his instinctual approach to music;
fatherhood; and socks. Then, Phil answers questions from drummers
such as Matt Cameron, Aaron Steele, Jon Wurster, and Fred Armisen
on topics ranging from Brian Eno to relinquishing the drum
throne. This is a truly special conversation with one of Joe's
favorite artists!