152: Live in Minnesota (Eric Gravatt, Lori Barbero, Todd Trainer, Gordy Knudtson)

Joe sits down with four of The Twin Cities' most captivating
drummers. Gordy Knudtson and Todd Trainer describe their
respective approaches to teaching; Lori Barbero articulates why
she doesn't believe in music education; and Eric Gravatt
describes how he just "got it" at an early age and why he left a
successful career in music to become a prison guard. This is a
great conversation about identity, loss, getting paid, and style.