WebComponents With or Without Java

An airhacks.fm conversation with@marcushellberg about: "Vaadin in
Turku, simplifying with EJB 3 without layers, hacking JavaScript in
browser, www.itmill.comwww.millstone.org and the history of vaadin,
how Joonas started vaadin, the benefits of opensource,
WebComponents with Vaadin Elements, Java generates WebComponents,
Java is listening to WebComponents, melting frameworks,
framework-less development with WebStandards, effectiveweb workshop
easy to explain ServiceWorkers, higher level caching strategies
with WorkBox, simple code first, Markus Code One Talk, lit-html is
the missing piece, high performance with lit-html, lit-html
outperforms virtual DOM, Angular is J2EE for the frontend,
Angular's clunky module system predates ES 6 modules, future
Angular versions could migrate away from the proprietary module
system, possible breaking changes every 6 months, questionable DI
in browser, less code with WebStandards, polyfills make your app
leaner, WebStandards are moving forward, webworkers and
webassembly, the lean WebStandard revolution, enterprise
integration with WebComponents, Custom Elements Everywhere,
Polymer's mission statement is to go away, polymer is the anti
framework, npm is the remaining strange thing, the future of
Vaadin, PWA for Java developers, upcoming WebStandards, and layered
APIs, Vaadin Flow, and Vaadin Components, @marcushellberg, @vaadin"