#80 The Force of Nonviolence w/ Judith Butler

Judith Butler joins me to discuss her new book, 'The Force of
Nonviolence'. We spoke about how the concept of self-defence raises
the question of what the individual sovereign subject is, how some
populations are interpellated as grievable - whilst others are not
- and finally we spoke about the relevance of Sigmund Freud's 1918
essay, 'Mourning and Melancholia' to a utopian, militantly
nonviolent politics.