Jason Hickel on how degrowth will save the world (part two)

Jason Hickel returns to PTO for the second part of a two part
interview on his book, Less is More: How Degrowth Will Save the
World. We talked about the concept of 'green growth', and why the
notion of decoupling growth from intensive resource use is
ultimately unconvincing. We also chatted about the Green New Deal
and whether it is compatible with the politics of degrowth. And
finally we talked about Jason's argument that a green energy and
resource transition, if undertaken with no challenge to the growth
imperative of capitalism, could pave the way for radically
increased exploitation of workers.