Episode 76: Tobie Langel on what people mean when they say "Open Source"

Guest Tobie Langel Panelists Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and
welcome to Sustain! On today’s episode, we have an amazing guest
back for a second time, Tobie Langel, who is an open source
strategy consultant and Founder of UnlockOpen. He’s a really great
resource for learning about the ins and outs of how open source
works, with his common-sense approach to dealing with common issues
that we have with open source licenses. One of the reasons he is
here is to talk about a wonderful Tweet he sent out about “this”
graph of what is and what is not open source. Download this episode
now to learn much more as Tobie goes in depth about each quadrant
of the graph.
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[00:02:02] Tobie explains what he meant by “this” that he refers to
in the Tweet. [00:04:08] Tobie talks more about licenses and
compliance in using open source in corporations. [00:07:06] Richard
brings up Tobie’s Tweet about the grid with a Y and X axis and he
describes what’s in each quadrant. [00:14:04] We learn what’s in
the bottom right quadrant of the graph. [00:17:29] Richard shares
his ideas on the early days of open source and Tobie expands on
them. [00:24:02] Tobie talks about the role of OSI and how he
imagines OSI looking at this going forward. [00:30:16] Richard
explains what he thinks about when he thinks of OSI and how the
graph is a really useful way of talking with people to figure out
where they are. [00:32:24] Find out where you can follow Tobie on
the internet. Quotes [00:04:50] “The other thing that corporations
really care about are security of the software and the other aspect
is community health. Why? And what’s interesting, that security
itself has to do really closely to community health.” [00:19:06]
“We say that copy left is a hack on copyright, but to some degree
open source is a hack on copyright too. It’s a hack on being able
to cross sort of corporate borders.” Spotlight [00:33:50] Richard’s
spotlights are ICQ, AIM, IRC, and AOL. [00:34:37] Tobie’s spotlight
is a book he read called, How to Take Smart Notes by Sönke Ahrens.
Links Tobie Langel Twitter (https://twitter.com/tobie?lang=en)
Tobie Langel Linkedin (https://ch.linkedin.com/in/tobielangel)
Tobie Langel Graph
(https://twitter.com/tobie/status/1352051125353127936) UnlockOpen
(https://unlockopen.com/) Sustain Discourse
(https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) OSI (https://opensource.org/)
ICQ New (https://www.icq.com/) AIM (Software)
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM_(software)) IRC
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat) AOL
(https://www.aol.com/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer
(https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree
Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at
Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest:
Tobie Langel.