Episode 119: FOSS Backstage 2022 with Ana Jiménez Santamaría and McCoy Smith

Guests Ana Jiménez Santamaría | McCoy Smith Panelist Richard
Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! On this episode,
Richard is at the FOSS Backstage 2022 that is held in Berlin every
year. This conference focuses on open source sustainability. He had
the opportunity to interview people who were there in-person and
talk about open source software sustainability, what they hope to
find in FOSS Backstage, the talks they did, and a bunch of other
good stuff. Our first guest is Ana Jiménez Santamaría, who is the
OSPO Program Manager at the TODO Group, a Linux Foundation project.
We also have another guest, McCoy Smith, who is the Founding
Attorney of Lex Pan Law, where he specializes in patents,
copyrights, and free and open source licensing. Go ahead and
download this episode now to find out much more! [00:01:48] Ana
tells us what she does at The Linux Foundation. She also explains
more about the TODO Group, how the memberships are structured, what
TODO offers, and what she offers as an OSPO manager there.
[00:05:23] Ana gave a talk and was part of a panel at FOSS
Backstage and she shares her perspective on InnerSource versus Open
Source and what TODO does with InnerSource. [00:09:46] Richard asks
Ana what she thinks is the right way for corporations to give back,
what the ratio is of giving back to the open source community, and
how do you do that in a good way. [00:12:32] We find out what TODO
does to help organizations coordinate their giving back to open
source projects. [00:14:47] Looking at the TODO Group and looking
ahead in the next three to five years, Ana tells us what she’s most
excited about making. [00:17:24] Richard asks Ana if TODO Group
offers anything towards the midsize or mini OSPO companies and what
do they offer. [00:19:17] Ana explains more about OSPOlogy.
[00:21:37] Find out the best way to get involved in TODO Group.
[00:24:15] Our next guest, McCoy Smith, joins us and shares his
background. [00:26:44] McCoy gives us the details on the talk he
did at FOSS Backstage on, \ Project Ownership & Project
Enforcement: The Rules, they are A-Changing, and he explains some
acronyms he talked about in his presentation: CAA, CLA, and LELO.
[00:30:14] Does enforcement matter for most open source projects?
[00:31:49] Richard asks McCoy about proliferation of licenses and
wonders if that’s even an issue or how he views it affecting the
open source space. [00:34:17] We find out if McCoy is seeing open
source being more of a liability for law than it used to be like
for legal parts of large corporations or if he’s seeing open source
focus on security more than it used to be. [00:37:22] McCoy tells
us about some different initiatives that are happening with OSPO’s.
[00:39:23] Find out what’s most interesting to McCoy today about
open source. [00:41:38] Richard brings up a blog post Kyle Mitchell
wrote, and McCoy shares his thoughts about it. [00:44:48] Find out
where you can follow McCoy on the web. Links SustainOSS
(https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter
(https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)
SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/)
podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) FOSS
Backstage 2022 (https://foss-backstage.de/) Ana Jiménez Santamaría
Twitter (https://twitter.com/anajsana95) Ana Jiménez Santamaría
LinkedIn
(https://es.linkedin.com/in/ana-jim%C3%A9nez-santamar%C3%ADa/en)
McCoy Smith Twitter
(https://twitter.com/McCoySmith?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)
McCoy Smith LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mccoysmith) Lex
Pan Law (https://www.lexpan.law/) Lex Pan Law Twitter
(https://twitter.com/lexpanlaw?lang=en) TODO Group
(https://todogroup.org/) TODO (OSPO) Group-GitHub
(https://github.com/todogroup) OSPOlogy Monthly Meetings
(https://github.com/todogroup/ospology/tree/main/meetings#ospology-monthly-meetings)
TODO Group OSPO Forum
(https://github.com/todogroup/ospology/discussions) Measuring the
Business Impact of Open Source & OSPOs with Amanda Casari
(https://community.linuxfoundation.org/events/details/lfhq-todo-group-presents-measuring-the-business-impact-of-open-source-ospos/)
OSPOCon 2022-Austin, TX
(https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-north-america/)
OSPOCon 2022 Europe
(https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-europe/about/ospocon/)
OpenChain (https://www.openchainproject.org/) FOSS Backstage-McCoy
Smith-Project Ownership & Project Enforcement: The Rules, they
Are A-Changing (YouTube)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgcXpSrKCMU) Sustain
Podcast-Episode 94: Josh Montgomery and the Patent Trolls
(https://podcast.sustainoss.org/94) Kyle Mitchell Blog
(https://writing.kemitchell.com/) Credits Produced by Richard
Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) and Charlotte Tienes
(https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlotte-tienes-88038a18b/) Edited by
Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/)
Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound
(https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests: Ana Jiménez
Santamaría and McCoy Smith.