Episode 121: FOSS Backstage 2022 with Cornelius Schumacher, Yadira Sánchez Benítez & Thomas Fricke

Guests Cornelius Schumacher | Yadira Sánchez Benítez | Thomas
Fricke Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to
Sustain! On this episode, Richard is at the FOSS Backstage 2022
that is held in Berlin every year. This conference focuses on open
source sustainability. He had the opportunity to interview people
who were there in-person and talk about software sustainability,
what they hope to find in FOSS Backstage, talks they did at FOSS
Backstage, and a bunch of other good stuff. Today, we have three
guests joining us. Our first guest is Cornelius Schumacher, who’s
an Open Source Steward at DB Systel GmbH, where he helps teams to
use open source software and to contribute to open source software.
Our next guest is Yadira Sánchez Benítez, who’s a Criminology and
Human-Centered AI Doctoral Student at the Faculty of Social
Sciences & Web Science Institute and a Fellow at the Software
Sustainability Institute. And our last guest is Thomas Fricke,
who’s doing Kubernetes security consulting and started a side
business supporting companies doing open source. Download this
episode to find out much more! [00:01:09] Richard gives us a brief
intro about Cornelius, what he did back in 2009, and Cornelius
shares his view on open source now and his current job. [00:06:12]
Looking at FOSS Backstage today, Cornelius tells us what he thinks
is different now, given the amount of perspective he has, then what
it used to be. [00:09:35] Cornelius details where we can improve or
do better in open source. [00:11:35] Find out where to follow
Cornelius online. [00:12:42] Yadira joins us and tells us
everything she does, as well as what it has to do with criminology
and human-centered AI. [00:15:55] Richard asks Yadira what
structures we’ve built into open source which are actively
excluding marginalized communities and how we can build a better
open source ecosystem going forward that’s more sustainable and
diverse. [00:18:44] Yadira explains why she’s in an institution
saying don’t make your software from institutions. [00:20:50] We
find out about what open source projects can do to be more
communitarian, and what open source program offices and large
enterprises can do to be less dominating and single-minded in their
approaches towards building software. [00:22:38] Yadira talks about
the way she sees open source working by mostly voluntary
contributions and people who want to be a part of this. [00:25:39]
Thomas joins us and tells us what he’s currently doing and some
news in Germany about a Sovereign Tech Fund. [00:28:11] How does
Thomas quantify what open source is critical information?
[00:29:58] We learn about a little bit of the work going on by the
German government that Thomas is advising on the topic about what’s
critical or not. [00:31:05] Richard and Thomas chat about the
meaning of sovereign in Germany. [00:34:21] Thomas explains more
about when he mentioned earlier, “forty-year old code packages just
working,” and what he thinks about what kinds of packages need what
level of support. [00:38:17] Find out if Thomas sees a future where
we all work together to shore up the ecosystems and make it more
sustainable and secure? [00:39:33] A study on critical
infrastructure is brought up and Richard wonders if Thomas sees a
way for developers to be able to raise issues to the state or to
the $10 million funds to help them out on an ecosystem level.
[00:40:44] What does Thomas see coming in the next five to ten
years? [00:42:53] Find out where you can follow Thomas online.
Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter
(https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)
SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/)
podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) FOSS
Backstage 2022 (https://foss-backstage.de/) Cornelius Schumacher
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_Schumacher)
Cornelius Schumacher Twitter (https://twitter.com/cschum?lang=en)
Cornelius Schumacher GitHub (https://github.com/cornelius)
Cornelius Schumacher Blog (https://blog.cornelius-schumacher.de/)
Cornelius Schumacher LinkedIn (https://de.linkedin.com/in/cschum)
Yadira Sánchez Benítez (University of Southampton Social Page)
(https://www.southampton.ac.uk/sociology/postgraduate/research_students/ysb1u17.page)
Yadira Sánchez (Google Scholar)
(https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=D-XRxO0AAAAJ&hl=en)
To App or Not to App? Understanding Public Resistance to COVID-19
Digital Contact Tracing and its Criminological Relevance
(https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&user=D-XRxO0AAAAJ&citation_for_view=D-XRxO0AAAAJ:d1gkVwhDpl0C)
Thomas Fricke Twitter (https://twitter.com/thomasfricke?lang=en)
Thomas Fricke Email (https://thomasfricke.de/) Thomas Fricke
LinkedIn (https://de.linkedin.com/in/thomas-fricke-9840a21) FOSS
Backstage-Thomas Fricke: Log4Shell-The Open Source World on Fire
(YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es_ehuyeCIQ) Credits
Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) and
Charlotte Tiennes
(https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlotte-tienes-88038a18b/) Edited by
Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/)
Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound
(https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests: Cornelius
Schumacher, Thomas Fricke, and Yadira Sánchez Benítez.