Episode 164: Derek Kozel & Abby Cabunoc Mayes at State of Open Con 2023

Guest Derek Kozel | Abby Cabunoc Mayes Panelist Richard Littauer
Show Notes Welcome back to another episode of Sustain! The podcast
where we talk about sustaining open source for the long haul.
Richard is at the State of Open Con 2023 UK in London, and he’s
excited to have his first ever in-person podcasts. On this episode
he has two guests for us to enjoy. His first guest is the President
of GNU Radio, Derek Kozel. Hear the moment Derek blows Richard’s
mind about all the uses for GNU Radio. Plus, Derek gets into how a
22-year-old project gets effectively run and funded. Interesting!
Then, joining him on the second half is Abigail Cabunoc Mayes. Abby
is a fellow Sustainer, a “prominent” (not somewhat) voice in open
source community, and the Open Source Program Manager at GitHub.
Phew. Abby is here today to talk about the importance of
maintainers. Enjoy these great discussions now, just click the
download button. [00:01:14] Derek explains what GNU Radio is and
all its uses. [00:02:15] Richard’s mind gets blown. (poof)
[00:03:08] Derek tells us the size of the GNU Radio community.
[00:04:10] This is a 22-year-old project, so grab some takeaways
from this experienced community. Derek discusses how they’ve kept
it going so smoothly. [00:05:50] Wait, What??!! Richard’s mind gets
blown 2.0. Derek tells us how the project all started from a court
case. [00:07:12] We learn they are funded by GRCon. [00:08:31]
Richard asks how GNU Radio is working to ensure inclusion and
diversity. [00:10:34] Derek circles back to funding and how they
use funds generated for the project. [00:11:58] Derek talks about
his favorite workshop at State of Open Con 2023 UK and learning
about succession planning. [00:17:04] Want to find out more about
GNU Radio and Derek on the internet? He shares where to find him
and GNU Radio. [00:19:09] Abby joins us for the second half and
talks about her recent trip to FOSDEM and learning how GitHub IS a
part of the open source community. [00:20:05] Succession Planning
was a talk she gave at FOSDEM and was well received. [00:20:24]
What were Abby’s main takeaways from FOSDEM? [00:21:46] Richard
circles back to Abby’s succession planning talk and they deep dive
into it. Take notes! [00:24:14] Abby gives advice for maintainers
trying to get the right kinds of contributors for the future of
your projects. [00:27:41] Not everyone wants to be a leader, and
Richard wants to know how people can position themselves that way
within a project. [00:29:02] Abby talks about what she’s been
working on, which is the GitHub Maintainer Community, a private
GitHub repo. [00:30:24] Richard is interested to know if Abby has
learned anything from talking to similar community leads at GitLab
or Bitbucket. [00:32:35] Find out where to follow Abby on the web.
Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter
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SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/)
podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) Richard
Littauer Twitter
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Derek Kozel Website (https://www.derekkozel.com/) Derek Kozel
LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dkozel/) Derek Kozel Twitter
(https://twitter.com/derekkozel?lang=en) Derek Kozel Mastodon
(https://mastodon.social/@dkozel@social.coop) GNU Radio
(https://www.gnuradio.org/) Abby Cabunoc Mayes LinkedIn
(https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbycabs/) Abby Cabunoc Mayes Twitter
(https://twitter.com/abbycabs) Abby Cabunoc Mayes GitHub
(https://github.com/abbycabs) Abby Cabunoc Mayes Hachyderm
(https://hachyderm.io/@abbycabs) FOSDEM 23 – Creating Pathways That
Invest in New Maintainers
(https://fosdem.org/2023/schedule/event/pathways_that_invest_in_new_maintainers/)
Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/)
Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound
(https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr
Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests:
Abigail Cabunoc Mayes and Derek Kozel.