Episode 183: Nahuai Badiola on WordPress, W3C, and all of tech sustainability

Guest Nahuai Badiola Panelists Richard Littauer | Justin Dorfman
Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! The podcast where we talk
about sustaining open source for the long haul. Today, Richard and
Justin are very excited to have as their guest, Nahuai Badiola,
who’s a freelance WordPress developer, part of the WordPress
Sustainability Initiative, the W3C Sustainability Working Group,
and a recent recipient of a fellowship at The Green Web Foundation.
Today’s discussion covers the importance of sustainability in
different contexts, including the environmental, social, and
economic aspects. There’s a conversation on the efforts being made
towards sustainability and the challenges of translating
environmental and social issues for the digital space. Also, we’ll
hear about Nahuai’s project called, Doughnut Economics, and his
fellowship work with The Green Web Foundation. Download this
episode to hear more! [00:02:14] Nahuai is a WordPress developer,
so he tells us when he started, and he talks about the three
pillars. [00:04:37] He tells us about the WordPress Sustainability
Initiative he helped set up and its efforts to create guidelines
for building a more sustainable CMS. [00:07:05] We hear about the
people who are on the Sustainability Initiative. [00:09:08] Nahuai
discusses how they plan to work with plugin developers and hosting
services to incentivize sustainable practices and possibly
implement a sustainability score for plugins. [00:11:54] The
conversation is about the need for sustainability in the WordPress
community and the efforts being made towards that goal. They also
discuss the importance of buy-in from influential people in the
community like Matt Mullenweg and Syed Balkhi at WPBeginner.
[00:17:23] Nahuai is part of a working group within the W3C that
aims to produce evidence-based guidelines for web sustainability.
He tells us there’s a draft in progress and the group aims to
present it at the W3C TPAC conference in September. [00:21:22] We
hear about The Green Web Foundation and their fellowship program
and Nahuai being a fellowship recipient working on a project to
bring the idea of “Doughnut Economics” to the WordPress community
through and interactive workshop. [00:25:39] Nahuai is considering
how to adapt the framework of 12 social foundations and 9
ecological ceilings for the WordPress community. [00:28:10] Richard
wonders if Nahuai has any thoughts about making that translation
itself an easier process for future people to go through.
[00:30:13] Find out where you can get involved with Nahuai’s
projects, learn more about him and his podcast you can check out
called, Freelandev. Quotes [00:02:47] “I fell in love with
WordPress because of the community.” [00:07:24] “We at WordPress
Sustainability Initiative can do small things but have a big
impact.” Spotlight [00:32:35] Justin’s spotlight is Beginner’s
Guide for WordPress. [00:32:52] Richard’s spotlight is the book,
Far from Land: The Mysterious Lives of Seabirds. [00:33:30]
Nahuai’s spotlight is WordPress. Links SustainOSS
(https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter
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SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/)
podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS
Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer
Twitter
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Richard Littauer Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/@richlitt)
Justin Dorfman Twitter
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Nahuai Badiola Twitter (https://twitter.com/nahuaibadiola?lang=en)
Nahuai Badiola-The Green Web Foundation
(https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/fellowships/nahuai-badiola/)
Nahuai Badiola Blog (Spanish) (https://nbadiola.com/) Freelandev
Podcast (https://www.freelandev.com/) Doughnut Economics Action Lab
(DEAL) (https://doughnuteconomics.org/) About Doughnut Economics
(https://doughnuteconomics.org/about-doughnut-economics) W3C TPAC
2023 (https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/) Beginner’s Guide for
WordPress (https://www.wpbeginner.com/) Far from Land: The
Mysterious Lives of Seabirds by Michael Brooke
(https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691174181/far-from-land)
WordPress (https://wordpress.com/) Credits Produced by Richard
Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at
Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by
DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/)
Special Guest: Nahuai Badiola.