Episode 316 - PowerScripting Podcast - Jeffrey Snover from Microsoft on Open Sourced PowerShell v6

Jeffrey Snover from Microsoft on open source PowerShell

 


Slack Chatroom


We are the live-podcast channel



 


Interview


The announcement

YouTube video with PowerShell on Linux demos

The PowerShell Repository

New PowerShell learning info



 


Chatroom Highlights


## What about ARM?


is ## for questions?


## @halr9000 did you find a goat to come on the show as a special
guest?


## jsnover needs more edge in his life


## PowerShell is dating bikers.


##Jeffrey, where were y'all hiding Ken Van Hyning all these
years?


##jeffrey where did you get inspired to bulid powershell?


ok, if you have q’s, then as sqlvariant has shown, please
add ## to the front!


## Is that all?


## ARM support?


## SSHRM


## remember OneGet and the legal team? :stuck_out_tongue:


juneb: prefix questions w/ ##


## Please tell us more about the governance model.


## how did legal allow MIT license?


## Were there lessons learned working with legal/folks unfamiliar
with OSS?  I know Chef offers a webinar for legal folks, it
seems like it would be helpful for large orgs like Microsoft to
help sell and teach this


## Will the roles of team members change?


## How can I get paid to work on open source powershell? :-P


## I second Rich's question: what's with the release timing?


## When will core help be open-sourced?


## wait, is that why CIM?


## Can we get an explaination on the Powershell RFC Process for
changes ##


## since we're now taking comments, is the team aware that some
nuget packages (like Microsoft.Management.Infrastrucutre) are
missing XML doc files?


## For bugs should we still use uservoice, connect, or github
issues now?


### We noticed version 6 on PowerShell for Linux, when can we
expect ver 6 on Winders ###


### is there any PowerShell features that don't work in PS Core?


## For Linux services would you expect to use Get-Services or a
new cmdlet like Get-LinuxServices?


##This is why we need Out-DataTable to be in PowerShell core!!
 :slightly_smiling_face:


## when might we see remoting to Azure/Office 365 tenants from
Mac/Linux?


## will powershell run hurd


###I need mah winforms in Linux, can we get System.Windows.Forms
ports to linux plz


## my thing about XML doc files


## yeah but what about rasbian


## Raspbian!


## Yes, it was around Raspbian/linux


## NEED ARM!


## need xml doc files in all the nuget pkgs


## Sooooo, how do I get PowerShell on my Chromebook?


## Do we use UserVoice or GitHub issues?


## will we be able to organize assets in our modules for
different platforms?  or will module authors be required to
manage that on their own?


### will script block loging work with syslog?


## Well SQL Server is on Linux so they have a business case
:champagne:


## will we be able to organize assets in our modules for
different platforms?  or will module authors be required to
manage that on their own?


## what is next for Snover and team?  e.g. Drawbridge,
rewriting kernel, on-premise DSC mgmt system


## e.g., right now I have to manually load 32 or 64 bit native
dlls in my modules; will I need to manually load linux vs windows
as well?


## any thoughts on deeper PS integration with Python etc, beyond
strings?


## will get a restapi  for AD, and will we get Join domains
cmdlets for powershell on mac


## OOH. DSC using powershell on linux, instead of the separate
DSC package???


##Have there been any advancements in DSC on Linux?


## DSC will we see a revamp of the DSC for linux to kill off
python ##


##Are you aware of any other vendors writing psmodules for Linux
right now?


##Snover, was PSDirect one of the drivers for PSnix?  Being
able to manage Win/Nix on Nano server Hyper-V with one language


##or MAC?


## will we see modules to manage bind9 or dhcpd or other services
or MYSQL?


##Forgive me if this was already answered, but can we now
powershell remote to Linux?


## do we require !#/usr/local/bash


## will there ever be a means to #! powershell in a script


## what about text enconding


## what can we expect in the next 6, 12 months


## Yes, upcoming roadmap??


## what about an update to the conhost terminal in windows ? Will
it support more then 256 colour?


## ONE MORE!  What's next for Snover and team?


##Ask about Ken Van Hyning (SQL Tools team) where were they
hiding him?!?!


## What question is he up to? One thing on an island?


## Oh you guys don't ask the last question any more?


###Whats next, will they take DIR away from us?


## As of PS5+, does Write-Host write to stream or no?


###Found it


## Is the redirect operator modified in linux or does it behave
as per normal?


## Wouldn't this be the role of .NET Standard??


jonwalz uploaded a file: Pasted
image at 2016-08-18, 8:51 PM
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and commented: Anyone else seeing PowerShell as the top trending
topic on Facebook?


https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/community/governance.md


https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/tree/master/src/Microsoft.Management.Infrastructure.CimCmdlets


Governance model:
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/community/governance.md


btw PowerShell going open source is trending on facebook :)
 https://www.facebook.com/topic/Windows-Powershell/109314949087498?source=whfrt&position=2&trqid=6320345599904818250


@foxde
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/installation/windows.md#msi


halr9000 uploaded a file:
Untitled
https://powershell.slack.com/files/halr9000/F22S025RC/-.pl


https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerShell/comments/4yb5yb/who_is_the_mystery_guest_tonight_and_what_might/d6mgixw


https://stedolan.github.io/jq/


@whatevergeek
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/getstarted


I liked this thread in hacker news:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12314653 - nice
demonstration of why, even if you *can* use text, you might
prefer objects


Linus actually is cool with systemd:
 https://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/0058243/interviews-linus-torvalds-answers-your-question


https://gist.github.com/Jaykul/15a6982aad9b6197a537f1ce5a786723


regarding Aliases there is an open issue here at
 https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/929


here's the PR @jsnover mentioned
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/pull/1901


I've suggested this as a resolution
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/929#issuecomment-239697927


ARM!!! https://media.giphy.com/media/HJN39I1q6EBKE/giphy.gif


@itadder the hard part is that other than ASP.NET http://ASP.NET
Core there is no presentation stack for .NET Core.  VSCode
gets a pass because it uses Electron / Chromium / Html / JS


http://electron.atom.io/apps/


And you can actually write Electron using C#:
 https://github.com/kexplo/electron-edge


https://youtu.be/2WZwv7TxqZ0


possible alternate to ogv, don't know if works on the new stuff
yet
https://github.com/dfinke/PowerShellSlackathon/tree/master/ExportDataTable


http://redhatloves.net/


also https://github.com/Pash-Project/Pash/issues/429


Is .ps a TLD?  RedHat should get RedHatLoves.ps
http://RedHatLoves.ps


First book should be written in the open on
https://www.gitbook.com/


https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1103


https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1390


https://cloud.google.com/tools/powershell/docs/


dereksonthejob  http://prnt.sc/c7jmuo


Explor .NET API Catalog:  http://apisof.net/catalog/System


dereksonthejob uploaded a
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and commented: here we go


@jonwalz Can you include in the show notes that SQL Server got 3
new cmdlets, and people can get the new SqlServer module by
installing SSMS 16.3 http://sqlps.io/dl


dereksonthejob uploaded a
file: @r_keith_hill
https://powershell.slack.com/files/dereksonthejob/F22SRLC02/screen_shot_2016-08-18_at_10.41.10_pm.png
and commented: I have it now, thx to @itadder


https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1621


https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/706


https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1273


Oh, here's a video we did last month if people need to catch up
to speed on what's going on with SQL PowerShell in 2016:
https://youtu.be/rc6lwiTE9GI


http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/695/where-does-mac-os-x-come-from


r_keith_hill uploaded a file:
RE line endings:
https://powershell.slack.com/files/r_keith_hill/F22SHCYDB/pasted_image_at_2016_08_18_08_54_pm.png
and commented: Just a LF but concerns me the default encoding is
unicode for out-file still