#410 — The Whole Catastrophe

Sam Harris speaks with Douglas Murray about Douglas’s new book,
On Democracies and Death Cults: Israel and the Future of
Civilization. They discuss Douglas’s recent experience on Joe
Rogan’s podcast, the need for experts, conspiracy theories, the
origins and aims of Hamas, the moral asymmetries between Israel
and Hamas, what makes jihadism a uniquely dangerous ideology,
Hamas’s attack on the Nova music festival, Douglas’s associations
with Trump and Trumpism, Elon Musk and X, antisemitism on the
Right, and other topics.


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