#428 — Political Extremism

Sam Harris speaks with Jonah Goldberg about Trump 2.0 and wealth
inequality. They discuss the horseshoe theory, illiberalism on
the Right and the Left, the fallout of the Trump-Epstein
controversy, cracks in Trump’s cult following, the difference
between MAGA activists and average republican voters, why the
Democrats still haven’t course-corrected, problems with the
“abundance agenda,” socialism and economic populism, the pitfalls
of the far-left’s approach to solving wealth inequality, Israel’s
standing on the world stage, and other topics.


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