⁠Hydrogen Subsidies, Clean Power & Fixing Spain's Blackouts | Ep212: EU Commissioner Dan Jørgensen

What will it take to finally wean Europe off Russian gas? Can
renewables help with grid stability? And is the EU making a
mistake subsidising hydrogen? 


This week on Cleaning Up, Michael Liebreich sits down with EU
Energy and Housing Commissioner Dan Jørgensen to dissect the
continent's energy transformation. 


In this wide ranging interview recorded at the Berlaymont
building in Brussels — the home of the European Commission —
Liebreich and Jørgensen delve into critical topics including
reducing dependency on Russian energy, the economics of renewable
technologies, the role of nuclear power, and the contentious
economics of green hydrogen. 


Jørgensen defends the EU's ambitious climate goals while
addressing concerns about cost, competitiveness, and political
pushback against the green transition. 


Leadership Circle:


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founding members: Actis, Alcazar Energy, Davidson Kempner,
EcoPragma Capital, EDP of Portugal, Eurelectric, the Gilardini
Foundation, KKR, National Grid, Octopus Energy, Quadrature
Climate Foundation, SDCL and Wärtsilä. For more information on
the Leadership Circle, please visit
https://www.cleaningup.live. 


Discover more:


Sierra Leone special:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-5QjSfy2SM

Decarbonizing the last few percent:
https://mliebreich.substack.com/p/decarbonizing-the-last-few-percent

Lessons from Spain:
https://mliebreich.substack.com/p/lessons-from-spain

EU Hydrogen Strategy:
https://energy.ec.europa.eu/topics/eus-energy-system/hydrogen_en