From Self-Awareness to Influence: Building Leaders Who Last
This episode of "Off the Wire" features host Matt Wireman in
conversation with executive coach and leader Ray Sanders. The
discussion centers on the power of influence, the role of coaching
and mentorship, and the journey of personal and professional
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0:02:00 – Personal Stories & The
Power of Influence
Ray shares his background, referencing his new book The Boy in
the Yellow House, which details his upbringing in a
challenging environment.
Theme: The power of personal influence and how various people
(coaches, neighbors, mentors) shaped his life.
Discussion on how everyone is a coach or leader in some capacity.
0:08:00 – Coaching, Mentorship, and
Leadership
Ray discusses the difference between coaching and mentorship,
sharing stories of influential mentors.
Key lessons from his mentor Michael Cat: reading the Bible,
prayer, sharing faith, serving others, and living in community
(James 5:16).
Theme: The importance of honest, open, and transparent (HOT)
relationships for personal growth and healing.
0:15:00 – Circles of Influence &
Community
Matt introduces a free resource on evaluating circles of
influence.
Discussion on the importance of community, trust, and
vulnerability in leadership and personal life.
Theme: The dangers of isolation, idleness, and "adultery"
(substituting real connection with unhealthy substitutes).
0:22:00 – Boundaries, Transparency, and
Healthy Relationships
Conversation about setting boundaries versus building walls in
relationships.
The importance of having a few trustworthy people for genuine
transparency.
Theme: Good fences make for great neighbors; healthy boundaries
foster strong relationships.
0:28:00 – Coaching Distinctions &
Life Experience
Ray distinguishes his coaching from others: focus on real-life
experience, not just certifications.
Shares lessons learned from various roles (corporate,
agriculture, family).
Theme: The value of practical wisdom and tools developed from
personal and professional experience.
0:34:00 – The Role of Spouses as
Coaches
Discussion on how Ray’s wife, Stephanie, has coached him in
kindness, patience, and managing anger.
Theme: Spouses as complementary partners who help each other
grow.
0:40:00 – Boundaries, Delegation, and
Leadership Tools
Matt and Ray discuss the importance of boundaries and delegation
for leaders.
Introduction of the "Do, Dump, Delegate, Delay" tool for
prioritizing tasks.
Theme: Leaders must focus on the highest and best use of their
time to avoid burnout and scale effectively.
0:46:00 – The True Role of a Leader:
Duplication
Ray challenges common notions of leadership (vision, leading,
serving) and asserts the primary role is to duplicate oneself
(make disciples).
Theme: Are you a leader worth duplicating? The importance of
modeling and multiplying positive influence.
0:52:00 – Self-Awareness as the Biggest
Hurdle
Discussion on self-awareness as the key personal hurdle for
leaders.
The importance of understanding how one is perceived and the
impact of nature, nurture, and choice.
Theme: Growth begins with self-awareness and the willingness to
change.
0:58:00 – Emotional Intelligence,
Empathy, and Personal Growth
Book recommendations: Emotional Intelligence 2.0 and
Crucial Conversations.
Ray shares a personal story about learning empathy from his wife
and the difference between sympathy and empathy.
Theme: Dealing with personal pain to develop empathy and the
capacity to understand others.
1:05:00 – Steps for Personal Change
& Coaching Moments
Matt summarizes the process of personal change: assuming the best
about others, recognizing personal growth areas, being receptive,
and taking action.
Theme: Growth requires vulnerability, receptivity, and
willingness to step into discomfort.
1:10:00 – Encouragement & The
Greatest Commandment
Final reflections on the importance of encouragement in coaching.
Reference to Jesus’ teaching: love God, love others, and the
importance of self-love and compassion.
Key Themes Covered:
The power of personal influence and coaching in everyday
life.
The importance of community, vulnerability, and trust.
Setting healthy boundaries and the difference between
boundaries and walls.
The role of self-awareness and emotional intelligence in
leadership.
The value of practical experience and learning from mistakes.
The process of personal change and growth.
The true role of a leader: to duplicate positive influence in
others.
Empathy, compassion, and the impact of personal pain on
relationships.
Thank you for listening! If you want to find out more about Matt
and how you can get coached toward your better self, visit
www.matthewwireman.com and check out his LinkedIn and Instagram
accounts @matt.wireman.
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