Ep. 238: On Mahmoud Khalil

First Amendment lawyer Marc Randazza and immigration lawyer
Jeffrey Rubin join the show to discuss the arrest, detention, and
possible deportation of green card holder Mahmoud Khalil.


Timestamps: 


00:00 Intro


00:53 Latest updates on Khalil


02:51 First Amendment implications


06:08 Legal perspectives on deportation


11:54 Chilling effects on free expression


21:06 Constitutional rights for non-citizens


24:03 The intersection of free speech and immigration law


27:02 Broader implication of immigration policies


37:51 Outro


Read the transcript here.


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Show notes:


- “​​We will be revoking the visas and/or green cards of Hamas
supporters in America so they can be deported.” Secretary of
State Marco Rubio via X (2025)


- “‘ICE proudly apprehended and detained Mahmoud Khalil, a
radical foreign Pro-Hamas student on the campus of @Columbia
University. This is the first arrest of many to come.’ President
Donald J. Trump” The White House via X (2025)


- “WATCH: White House downplays stock market declines as ‘a
snapshot’” PBS NewsHour (2025)


- “Secretary Rubio's remarks to the press” U.S. Department of
State (2025)


- “Mahmoud Khalil. Notice to appear.” Habeeb Habeeb via X (2025)