S9 Ep41: Body Language and Lie Detection with Gavin Stone

Chris sits down with Gavin Stone—former covert operative, body
language expert, and best-selling author—to explore the subtle
science of reading people. They delve into the art of lie
detection, psychological manipulation, and the power of nonverbal
cues in high-risk environments. Drawing on two decades of
frontline HUMINT experience, Gavin shares insights from a career
spent tracking threats, training operatives, and mastering
deception detection. From surveillance tradecraft to the fine
line between influence and control, this episode offers a
fascinating look at how operatives really interpret human
behavior—and what the rest of us can learn from it.

Find more about Gavin:
https://www.convenzis.co.uk/speakers/gavin-stone

Gavin’s YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@GavinStoneAuthor

Find Gavin’s book on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/stores/Gavin-Stone/author/B015HWIKGG.


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