How many trade wars are we in right now?

It depends on who you ask. But we can all agree that this round
of tariffs is not the same as the ones President Trump enacted
during his first term. In this episode, we compare the tariffs of
2018 to the chaotic rollouts and rollbacks of 2025. Plus: We
visit Utah County, one of the youngest areas in the U.S., with
ADP chief economist Nela Richardson.


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