The Self-Preserving Machine: Why AI Learns to Deceive
When engineers design AI systems, they don't just give them rules -
they give them values. But what do those systems do when those
values clash with what humans ask them to do? Sometimes, they lie.
AI researcher Ryan Greenblatt comes on the show to explor
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When engineers design AI systems, they don't just give them rules
- they give them values. But what do those systems do when those
values clash with what humans ask them to do? Sometimes, they
lie.
In this episode, Redwood Research's Chief Scientist Ryan
Greenblatt explores his team’s findings that AI systems can
mislead their human operators when faced with ethical conflicts.
As AI moves from simple chatbots to autonomous agents acting in
the real world - understanding this behavior becomes critical.
Machine deception may sound like something out of science
fiction, but it's a real challenge we need to solve now.
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