#127 — Freedom from the Known

Sam Harris speaks with Michael Pollan about his new book “How to
Change Your Mind.” They cover the the resurgence of interest in
psychedelics in clinical practice and end-of-life care, the
“betterment of well people,” the relationship between thinking
and mental suffering, the differences between psychedelics and
meditation, the non-duality of consciousness, the brain’s
“default mode network,” their experiences with various
psychedelics, and other topics.


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