#178 — The Reality Illusion

Sam and Annaka Harris speak with Donald Hoffman about his book
“The Case Against Reality.” They discuss how evolution has failed
to select for true perceptions of the world, his “interface
theory” of perception, the primacy of math and logic, how space
and time cannot be fundamental, the threat of epistemological
skepticism, causality as a useful fiction, the hard problem of
consciousness, agency, free will, panpsychism, a mathematics of
conscious agents, philosophical idealism, death, psychedelics,
the relationship between consciousness and mathematics, and many
other topics.


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