#201 — A Conversation with Yuval Noah Harari

Sam Harris speaks with Yuval Noah Harari about the Covid-19
pandemic and its future implications. They discuss the failures
of global leadership, the widespread distrust of institutions,
the benefits of nationalism and its current unraveling in the
U.S., politics as a way of reconciling competing desires, the
consequences of misinformation, the enduring respect for science,
the future of surveillance, the changing role of religion, and
other topics.


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