#216 — A Conversation with Graeme Wood

Sam Harris speaks with Graeme Wood about the breakdown of social
order in the U.S. They discuss the recent eruptions of violence,
the loss of trust in the media, the cases of Jacob Blake and Kyle
Rittenhouse, how to understand police videos, the risks of
vigilantism, the politicization of race, the problem of deep
fakes, Trump not actually wanting to be president, the prospect
that Trump might attempt to pardon himself, and other topics.


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